Notizen:

Debharrvey:
!From MD, August, 1990--Lived in Kalmuk area.

Familie/Ehepartner: Braun, Evald. Evald wurde geboren geschätzt 1922 in ,,, UdSSR; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Debharrvey:
!Margaret (Knodel) Dekker's step-father, Lorenz Kristian Lang, and his three siblings "all died in 1943." From Margaret's letters, it is not clear whether she had more than one half-brother (referred to in picture from March '89 letter) from her step-father, Lorenz Lang. In 1990 in Kustanai I met her half brother, Johann Lang, father of Luda.
Date of birth given by Valentina Holombowski in 1993 on Printed PAF record I provided her.

Michael L. Wiest:
1. Title: Harold M Wiest.FTW - Media: Other - Text: Date of Import: Jan 24, 2002

Lorenz heiratete Wiest, Philipina. Philipina (Tochter von Wiest, Karl und Wiest, Elisabeth) wurde geboren in 1889 in Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland; gestorben am 15 Dez 1955 in ,,, UdSSR. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Filbena Karlovna

Notizen:

Debharrvey:
!Date of death reported by Margaret Dekker in 22 May 1989 letter to W.W and K.E. Wiest (my mother and father). She was living with her daughter, Margaret Dekker, at the time of her death. She died of cancer. Additional info. gotten from Russian note enclosed with Albiena's letter. The translation of her name seems to come out, "Filipina," but that may just be a chararteristic of the spelling of German by our people who have not had formal education in German.
Date of birth given by Valentina Holombowski in 1993 on Printed PAF record I provided her.

Michael L. Wiest:
1. Title: Harold M Wiest.FTW - Media: Other - Text: Date of Import: Jan 24, 2002

Notizen:

www.pixel.cs.vt.edu:
Born: 1884075/1 410 30 - Bap: Oct 23 - Reformed

Lilia Herlez:
Note:
Paten: Karl Kerner

Michael L. Wiest:
Sources:
1. Title: Dennis John Weist.FTW - Media: Other - Text: Date of Import: Jan 16, 2002
2. Title: Harold M Wiest.FTW - Media: Other - Text: Date of Import: Jan 24, 2002

Debharrvey:
Children of Karl and Elizabeth Wiest are (1/5/89) tentatively identified as: Konrad, Wilhelm, Elizabeth, Friedrich, Jacob, Katherina, Filbiena, and Edward. Date of death of Elizabeth Wiest was reported by her granddaughter, Margaret Dekker (of Kustanai, Kazakhstan) in a 22 May 1989 letter to W.W. and K.E. Wiest (my mother and father). She was said to have lived with her son Konrad at that time (place unspecified but probably Friedrichsfeld, since the family didn't leave there until later), and Margaret remembers that she and her parents lived nearby at that time. In a March 1989 letter, Margaret Dekker also says that we are related to Rudolf Wiest through her grandfather, Karl; i.e., "I am 4th cousin to Rudolf's father." Likewise, she is 4th cousin to Albina Root. In Olinda Weitzel's letter of 30 Jan. 1992 she says she believes our Wiest forbearers came to Russia around 1858-1860, but she doesn't know for sure.

Fred Wiest:
Harold M Wiest.FTW
Yes, my great grandmother, Elizabeth, was also born a Wiest. I do haveone piece of informat ion on her in addition to what you saw in myGEDCOM--namely, that she (Elizabeth) had a siste r. "Margaret Decker, myDad's first cousin then living in Kazakhstan, wrote (March, 1989) tha ther grandmother, Elizabeth, had a sister named Julia, who married aJulius Kerner." Juli a marrying Julius sounds a little suspicious, but Iguess it's possible. In some very old fa mily photographs I found aphoto of the Julius Kerner family. We also have a photo of Elizab eth,but not of her husband, Karl.
INFO FROM WILLIAM WIEST 9 Jan 2001.
NOTE: In St. Petersburg Archives found a Julius Kerner but missing infoon wife with a chil d Christine Kerner b. 13 Jan 1884 and an ElisabethaKerner b. 29 Nov 1880. A Julius Kerner w as listed as being born 16 Dec1859 in Rohrbach to Jacob Kerner and a Salomea Schaefer who we re married26 Apr 1855 in Rohrbach.
Note: Also find a Carl Kerner married 4 Mar 1847 in Rohrbach aMargaretha Wiest
Franz Wiest - Sebastian Wiest - Konrad Wiest - Karl Wiest If allthis is true, and Elisabeth is Conrad' s daughter, then Karl andElisabeth are 2nd cousins
Franz Wiest - Jakob Wiest - Conrad Wiest - Elisabeth Wiest

Karl heiratete Wiest, Elisabeth geschätzt 1876 in Friedrichsfeld, Gebiet Kaukasus, Region Krim, Rußland. Elisabeth (Tochter von Wiest, Konrad Sr. und Riedlinger, Katharina) wurde geboren am 23 Jun 1857 in Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland; gestorben in 1922 in Friedrichsfeld, Ipatowo, Stavropol, UdSSR. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Marcie Graham:
Born: 1852

Michael L. Wiest:
Yes, my great grandmother, Elizabeth, was also born a Wiest. I do have one piece of informat ion on her in addition to what you saw in my GEDCOM--namely, that she (Elizabeth) had a siste r. "Margaret Decker, my Dad's first cousin then living in Kazakhstan, wrote (March, 1989) tha t her grandmother, Elizabeth, had a sister named Julia, who married a Julius Kerner." Juli a marrying Julius sounds a little suspicious, but I guess it's possible. In some very old fa mily photographs I found a photo of the Julius Kerner family. We also have a photo of Elizab eth, but not of her husband, Karl.
INFO FROM WILLIAM WIEST 9 Jan 2001.
Note: Also find a Carl Kerner married 4 Mar 1847 in Rohrbach a Margaretha Wiest
Franz Wiest - Sebastian Wiest - Konrad Wiest - Karl Wiest If all this is true, and Elisabeth is Conrad' s daughter, then Karl and Elisabeth are 2nd cousins - Franz Wiest - Jakob Wiest - Conrad Wiest - Elisabeth Wiest
Sources:
1. Title: Dennis John Weist.FTW - Media: Other - Text: Date of Import: Jan 16, 2002
2. Title: Harold M Wiest.FTW - Media: Other - Text: Date of Import: Jan 24, 2002

Notizen:

Fredrick R.Wiest
Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 4D51FB93E7294B2ABFF47F242548091D9AAC
Sources:
1. Title: Rohrbach, So. Russia--1858 Census - Author: GRHS

Michael L. Wiest:
Sources:
1. Title: Dennis John Weist.FTW - Media: Other - Text: Date of Import: Jan 16, 2002
2. Title: Harold M Wiest.FTW - Media: Other - Text: Date of Import: Jan 24, 2002

Konrad heiratete Strasser, Eva Maria am 7 Sep 1848 in Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland. Eva (Tochter von Strasser, Johann Georg und Hellmann, Eva Margaretha) wurde geboren um 1829 in Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Eva Marie Strasser

Notizen:

Michael L. Wiest:
Sources:
1. Title: Dennis John Weist.FTW - Media: Other - Text: Date of Import: Jan 16, 2002
2. Title: Harold M Wiest.FTW - Media: Other - Text: Date of Import: Jan 24, 2002

Notizen:

www.pixel.cs.vt.edu:
Married: 1882641/2 313? 19

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Conrad Wiest

Notizen:

Marcie Graham:
NOTE: If Conrad and Catharina had another daugher named Julia who would have been born about 2 years after Elisabeth, then this Elisabeth is the one who married Karl Wiest (b 1855). We know that Karl Wiest married an Elisabeth Wiest. 1/17/2002 HMW

Michael L. Wiest:
Note:
If Conrad and Catharina had another daugher named Julia who would have been born about 2 years after Elisabeth, then this Elisabeth is the one who married Karl Wiest (b 1855). We know that Karl Wiest married an Elisabeth Wiest. 1/17/2002 HMW
Sources:
1. Title: Dennis John Weist.FTW - Media: Other - Text: Date of Import: Jan 16, 2002
2. Title: Harold M Wiest.FTW - Media: Other - Text: Date of Import: Jan 24, 2002

Konrad heiratete Riedlinger, Katharina am 18 Jul 1851 in Odessa, Gebiet Großliebental, Region Odessa, Rußland. Katharina (Tochter von Riedlinger, Georg Friedrich und Börkirchert, Dorothe Katharina) wurde geboren am 11 Feb 1824 in Großliebental, Gebiet Großliebental, Region Odessa, Rußland; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

www.pixel.cs.vt.edu/
Name: Friedlinger (Weder in Einwanderungsliste noch in Rohrbach erwähnt (Stumpp))

Fredrick R.Wiest:
Name: Riedingler (Weder in Einwanderungsliste noch in Rohrbach erwähnt (Stumpp))

Michael L. Wiest:
Sources:
1. Title: Bachmann.FTW - Media: Other - Text: Date of Import: Jan 8, 2002
2. Title: Micahel Leon Wiest.FTW - Media: Other - Text: Date of Import: Jan 24, 2002
3. Title: Harold.FTW - Media: Other - Text: Date of Import: May 7, 2002
4. Title: Dennis John Weist.FTW - Media: Other - Text: Date of Import: Jan 16, 2002

www.noktree.com/family/334022.html:
Groslineanthal, Russia ? (Ort nicht gefunden)

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Beruf: Landwirt (Farmer)

Notizen:

Uwe Zimbelmann:
Karl Stumpp: S.791#69

Karen Abel:
UID: 7B4CC8901DF34B70B9CA3EA5316B657CCD55
Sources:
1. Title: Odessa Library - Publication: www.odessa3.org
2. Title: Rohrbach, So. Russia--1858 Census - Author: GRHS
3. Title: Odessa Library - Publication: www.odessa3.org

Michael L. Wiest
Sources:
1. C983491 1729-1763 0193838 Film
2. C983491 1798-1822 0193838 Film
3. Title: Birth extrapolated from St. Petersburg death info - ABBR Birth extrapolated from St. Petersburg death info
4. Title: Dennis John Weist.FTW - Media: Other - Text: Date of Import: Jan 16, 2002
5. Title: Harold M Wiest.FTW - Media: Other - Text: Date of Import: Jan 24, 2002
6. Title: Marriage date extrapolated from birth of first child - ABBR Marriage date extrapolated from birth of first child
7. Title: 1858 Russian Census of Rohrbach - ABBR 1858 Russian Census of Rohrbach

Sebastian heiratete Scheck, Katharina um 1827 in Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland. Katharina (Tochter von Scheck, Michael und Scheck, Margaretha - wife of) wurde geboren um 1807 in ,,, Deutschland; gestorben am 5 Mrz 1846 in Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland; wurde beigesetzt am 8 Apr 1845 in Friedhof Rohrbach, Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Catharina Schnek, Schneck, Schenk

Notizen:

Karl Stumpp:
Karl Stumpp: S.793#96

www.pixel.cs.vt.edu:
Death: 1882638/1 82 3 - 35 yrs

Fred Wiest:
Death: 4/5/1845

Lilia Herlez:
Born: 1810 Polen

Teresa G. Baldry:
Born: 1811 - Rohrbach, Odessa, Russia
Death: 5. April 1845

Karen Abel:
UID: 7493FDF916204E1186AF001AADD85DA36679
Sources:
1. Title: Odessa Library - Publication: www.odessa3.org

Michael L. Wiest
Sources:
1. Title: Birth extrapolated from St. Petersburg death info - ABBR Birth extrapolated from St. Petersburg death info
2. Title: Dennis John Weist.FTW - Media: Other - Text: Date of Import: Jan 16, 2002
3. Title: Harold M Wiest.FTW - Media: Other - Text: Date of Import: Jan 24, 2002
4. Title: Death record St. Petersburg Archives - ABBR Death record St. Petersburg Archives

Notizen:

Karl Stumpp:
Karl Stumpp: S.458, S.788#8

Lilia Herlez:
Born: Baden

Pixel (Auszug KB):
Born: errechnet
Tod: 1884091/3 668 11 - 82 yrs 4 mos 10 dys

Johann heiratete Hellmann, Eva Margaretha geschätzt 1813 in Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland. Eva wurde geboren am 5 Dez 1789 in Lingenfeld, Kreis Germersheim, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland; getauft am 6 Dez 1789 in Lingenfeld, Kreis Germersheim, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland; gestorben am 11 Mrz 1850 in Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Margaretha Schaefer

Notizen:

Karl Stumpp:
Karl Stumpp: S.788#8

Familysearch.org:
ID: 9Z6L-2Y2

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Jacob

Notizen:

Uwe Zimbelmann:
Karl Stumpp: S.791#69

Fred Wiest:
Born: 2/1801


Karen Abel:
UID: FB6389B93681441F932A410002B828FA94F0
Born: Abt 1801
Sources:
1. Title: Die Deutsche Auswanderung Nach Russland 1763-1862 - Author: Karl Stumpp

Michael L. Wiest:
Note:
My census says Jakob (Born: 1801) was married to three women. [Cesus shows a third women.] I didn't realize that until I got your previous e-mail. I'll put the proof together and send it to you when I get a little more time to look at it again. There are about three children from the Jakobs that I can't identify exactly which Jacob they belong to. I'll get back to you, Dennis Weist (Jan 16, 2001)
Jacob was born between Feb 1801 and Oct 1801. - April 28, 1838 Lightening hit the house of Jakob Wiest.
Sources:
1. Title: Birth extrapolated from St. Petersburg death info - ABBR Birth extrapolated from St. Petersburg death info
2. Title: Harold M Wiest.FTW - Media: Other - Text: Date of Import: Jan 24, 2002
3. Title: Birth extrapolated from birth of first child - ABBR Birth extrapolated from birth of first child
4. Title: Marriage date extrapolated from birth of first child - ABBR Marriage date extrapolated from birth of first child
5. Title: Marriage record St. Petersburg Archives - ABBR Marriage record St. Petersburg Archives
6. Title: Dennis John Weist.FTW - Media: Other - Text: Date of Import: Jan 16, 2002

Jakob heiratete Hörth, Anna Maria um 1823 in Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland. Anna (Tochter von Hörth, Johann Ludwig und Schneider, Eva Maria) wurde geboren in 1799 in Erlenbach bei Kandel, Kreis Germersheim, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland; gestorben am 4 Jan 1841 in Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland; wurde beigesetzt am 8 Jan 1841 in Friedhof Rohrbach, Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Heurth

Notizen:

www.pixel.cs.vt.edu:
Born: errechnet
Death: 1883192/2 205 - Wife of Jacob Wuest, born Rheinb-d 42 years

Michael L. Wiest:
Sources:
1. Title: Birth extrapolated from St. Petersburg death info - ABBR Birth extrapolated from St. Petersburg death info
2. Title: Harold M Wiest.FTW - Media: Other - Text: Date of Import: Jan 24, 2002
3. Title: Birth extrapolated from birth of first child - ABBR Birth extrapolated from birth of first child
4. Title: Marriage date extrapolated from birth of first child - ABBR Marriage date extrapolated from birth of first child
5. Title: Marriage record St. Petersburg Archives - ABBR Marriage record St. Petersburg Archives
6. Title: Dennis John Weist.FTW - Media: Other - Text: Date of Import: Jan 16, 2002

Georg heiratete Börkirchert, Dorothe Katharina geschätzt 1821. Dorothe wurde geboren am 3 Apr 1804 in Kirchheim am Neckar, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 1 Mrz 1867 in Großliebental, Gebiet Großliebental, Region Odessa, Rußland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Johann Frantz Wiest, Wuest

Notizen:

Karl Stumpp:
Karl Stumpp: S791#69 Erlenbach/Germersheim-Pf

Pixel (Auszug KB):
Death: 1882638/1 95 8 - 74 yrs

James-Sergent :
Kind Jacob Weisheit 1810-1854 aufgelistet

Robert Morgenthaler:
Death: 10 April 1846

Fred Wiest:
Born: Erlenbach, Kandel, Pfalz, Bayern
Death: 4/10/1846

Familysearch.org:
ID: KLGV-87G
Taufe: Steinweiler, Pfalz, Bayern Lande, Germany

Karen Abel:
UID: 83B5CF75E2D143DA93BEE33652684248FA5F
Note: From Erlenbach/Germersheim-Pfalz.
Sources:
1. Title: Die Deutsche Auswanderung Nach Russland 1763-1862 - Author: Karl Stumpp

Michael L. Wiest:
Death: 10 Apr 1846
Source:
C981771 1694-1797 0488505 Film
The following is taken from the book, "Homesteaders on the Steppe" by Joseph S. Height.
The Beresan district
The colony of Rohrbach. Est. 1809
The village of Rohrbach was located in the Zerigul valley, 40 versts west of the Bug river, and 100 versts northeast of Odessa. It was only 20 versts from Landau, which was the administrative center of the newly established Beresan Colony.
The Crownland apportioned to the colony of Rohrbach amounted to 8,333 desss. (or 22,500 acres), a tract of land large enough to provide a living for 150 families. The first settlers, consisting of 26 families, were conducted to the Zerigul valley in the fall of 1809 by Chief Mayor Brittner of Grossliebental. The following spring, Commissioner von Rosenkampf conducted another 69 families, with their leader Michael Kuhn, from their winter quarters in the colonies in the environs of Odessa, to the place of settlement. Of the 95 families, 56 had emigrated fro Alsace and the Palatinate, 33 were from Baden, 4 from Würtemberg, and 2 from Prussian Poland; in all about 450 souls.
Since a large number of the earliest settlers were from the Palatinate, the settlement was named after the town of Rohrbach, in the district of Bergzabern. It seems that the first homesteaders were put up in stone dwellings. Each family also received the necessary livestock, farm equipment, and seed grain, for which the families were granted an advance loan of 100,490 rubles. The cash assets of the immigrants amounted to some 40,000 rubles.
In 1813 another 27 families arrived from Prussian Poland, and 4 more families from Württemberg. In 1816, according to the earliest available census, the village of Rohrbach had 130 families, with a population of 602 souls (312 men and 287 women). From 1817 - 19 another 22 families, of which 16 were from Baden, were settled. In the next two decades 31 families moved away to other colonies. Despite this loss, however, the population of Rohrbach was 683 in 1838, and rose to 1,178 in 1847. For the 217 families, the available area of Crownland per family was about 40 dess., or 100 acres.
Further on in the book it states:
"Out of partiality to the village of Rohrbach (Pfalz) from which they had emigrated, the two colonists Peter Schmidt and Peter Nuss, who arrived at this place among the first, gave the colony the name of Rohrbach." (As Peter Nuss is known to have immigrated from Rohrbach/Bergzabern, Pfalz, the Rohrbach referred to was in the Palatinate, not in Baden. Translator's note.)"
Departures: In `1818, ten families went to Grusinia, in 1823, 11 families moved to Odessa and to other colonies. (This could explain why Johann on his immigration papers says he was from Odessa. However, he could just have put that because it was a larger area).

Marcie Graham:
1) Franz Wiest, with family including Johannes, came to Rohrbach in 5 Oct 1809 from Erlenbach , Germersheim, Germany
2) In 1843, 10 families moved to Bessarabia from Rohrbach (including Johannes Wiest)
3) In 1898, Jacob Wiest and family immigrated to Heil, ND, Usa from Bessarabia. Jacob Wiest became a wealthy sheep rancher.
4) In 1910, Jacob Wiest returned to Leipzig, Bessarabia. (Jacob had a flour mill in Kurudschika) He told his children that if they wanted any part of the inheritance, they had to come with him. Only the oldest daughter Sophia (who was engaged) stayed behind. In 1912 Michael Wiest was drafted into the Russian Army, and served for 6 years 7 months. (NOTE: The Seidel children did not return to Europe with the rest of the Wiest family)
5) Near Christmas 1925, Michael, Henry, and Ella (Keller) Wiest were on board the ship the "Sierra Coradoba" (sp) to Brazil. They lived in Brazil for 2+ years before coming to the USA in April 1928.
6) In April 1928, Michael Wiest and family moved to Ralston, Washington.
NOTE: The Grosses came to the US in 1902, the Schaal's in 1907, and the Wiest's (first in 1899, then again in 1928)
The storming of the Bastille on 14 July, 1789 marked the beginning of the French revolution . The monarchy fell in 1791 and soon a coalition of nine neighboring states declared war on the new republic in an effort to restore the monarchy. Early French setbacks were soon reversed and by the end of 1793 the allies were pushed back east of the Rhine; Alsace and the Palati nate were ceded to France and Mainz was recaptured. Among the foremost French military leader s was Napoleon Bonaparte. In early 1796 the 26 year old Napoleon was placed in command of the entire French army.
That same year, French troops invaded the Upper Rhine. The entire Rhine valley, Württembe rg, Franconia and Bavaria were occupied. The enemy troops "descended upon the German populace like swarms of hungry wolves. The contributions and requisitionings were terrible. The sold iers abused the land to the utmost: I blush with shame to lead an army that behaves in such a n unworthy manner ..", wrote General Jourdan. In 1799 Napoleon staged a coup d'etat and wa s made First Counsel with nearly dictatorial powers.
On 9 February, 1801 peace was concluded with Austria at Lunéville. The accord set, among other things, the Rhine River, from Switzerland to the Netherlands, as the eastern boundary of France. The results of a plebescite in 1802 made Napoleon First Counsul for life and in May of 1804 he was elected Emperor. The year 1805 saw the formation of the Third Coalition by Great Britain, Russia, Austria, Sweden and the Kingdom of Naples with the goal to forc e France back behind its former borders. On the same day, October 20, the French defeated th e Austrians at Ulm, Admiral Nelson defeated the French fleet at Trafalgar. In July, 1806 sixt een German states formed the Confederation of the Rhine, with Napoleon as protector. Under th is protectorate, several areas northeast and southwest of Kirn were ceded to Baden in 1803, encompassing the towns of Henau, Schwarzerden and Weitersborn. The years 1800-1810 ushered in hard times and the men were conscripted into the French Army. Many young men forsook their fatherland to escape military service and are found in the lists of emigration. - Joh. Frantz WUEST

Johann heiratete Riedel, Eva Margaretha am 9 Feb 1794 in Erlenbach bei Kandel, Kreis Germersheim, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland. Eva (Tochter von Riedel, Jacob und Winter, Eva Margaretha) wurde geboren in 1774 in Erlenbach bei Kandel, Kreis Germersheim, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland; gestorben in 1815 in Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland; wurde beigesetzt in Friedhof Rohrbach, Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Maria Eva Margaretha Reidel

Notizen:

Familysearch.org:
ID: K1DS-FYB

Michael L. Wiest:
Sources:
1. M983491 1729-1822 0193838 Film
2. Title: Birth extrapolated from St. Petersburg death info - Note: ABBR Birth extrapolated from St. Petersburg death info
3. Title: Harold M Wiest.FTW - Media: Other - Text: Date of Import: Jan 24, 2002

Notizen:

Marcie Graham:
Married: Erlenbach Kandel, Pfalz, Bayern

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Michael Schneck

Notizen:

Karl Stumpp:
Karl Stumpp: S.793#96

Michael heiratete Scheck, Margaretha - wife of geschätzt 1804. Margaretha wurde geboren in Mrz 1786 in Altingen, Kreis Tübingen, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 23 Dez 1847 in Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Karl Stumpp:
Karl Stumpp: S.793#96

Notizen:

ESchulz:
Ich bin mir nicht sicher, ob Ludwig Michaels Vater ist, aber Aufzeichnungen aus St. Petersburg weisen darauf hin. Wenn seine Frau in der Rheinregion geboren wurde, war er es vielleicht auch. Sein Name wird als Horth geschrieben, was derselbe ist wie auf dem Grabstein von Annastasia Hoerth, mit den zwei Punkten über dem "o". Wer diesen Namen recherchiert, sollte sich beide Schreibweisen merken.

Familysearch.org:
ID: GWV8-284
Born: 14 Sep 1782

Johann heiratete Schneider, Eva Maria am 14 Mai 1802 in Climbach, Bas-Rhin, Elsaß, Frankreich. Eva (Tochter von Schneider, Heinrich und Freyacher, Anna Barbra) wurde geboren am 14 Apr 1781 in Climbach, Bas-Rhin, Elsaß, Frankreich; gestorben am 10 Jul 1840 in Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland; wurde beigesetzt am 13 Jul 1840 in Friedhof Rohrbach, Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Maria Eva Schneider

Notizen:

ESchulz:
Sterbeurkunden in St. Petersburg enthalten die Information, dass sie ungefähr 1781 in Kleinbach am Rhein geboren wurde, von dem ich annehme, dass es in Deutschland war. Sie war zum Zeitpunkt ihres Todes 59 Jahre alt. Ich bin mir nicht ganz sicher, dass sie die Mutter von Michael Hoerth ist.

Familysearch.org:
ID: KGC3-1PM

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Johann Michael Wiest, Wuest

Notizen:

Fred Wiest:
Born: Erlenbach, Kandel, Pfalz, Bayern

Lea Meister:
Born: Erlenbach, Kandel, Pfalz, Bayern

Michael L. Wiest::
Nachricht: (Gepostet von: Bruce T. Hall)
„Wiest“ (oder Wüst auf Deutsch) bedeutet nicht „verrückt“ oder „gemein“. In Übereinstimmung mit der deutschen Namensgebungspraxis des 15. Jahrhunderts bedeutet „Wüst“ als Cognom im Altdeutschen „Wüste“ oder genauer „Wildnis“ im biblischen Sinne. Die ersten identifizierbaren deutschen Wüsts stammen aus dem Dorf Dierbach im Herzogtum Zweibrücken, Rhein-Pfalz. Die Umgebung von Dierbach erfüllt die Definition von „Wildnis“ in zweierlei Hinsicht: (1) Es war im 15. Jahrhundert eine bewaldete Bergregion; und (2) es war ein Gebiet, das durch ein paar hundert Jahre Krieg verwüstet wurde, als die französischen (die Invasoren) und germanischen (die Befreier) Armeen in dieser Region eine Schlacht nach der anderen lieferten.
Deutsche Nachnamen wurden nicht einfach willkürlich gewählt. Als die Verordnung erlassen wurde, dass Einzelpersonen Nachnamen annehmen müssen, wurden strenge Regeln für die Wahl solcher Namen festgelegt. Für „echte Deutsche“ gab es nur drei Möglichkeiten: (1) Nehmen Sie einen Namen an, der mit dem Beruf oder Beruf des Haushaltsvorstands zusammenhängt. Also die Bauers (Bauern), Zimmermans (Zimmerleute), Schäffers (Hirten) usw. (2) Nehmen Sie einen Namen an, der sich auf den Ort bezieht, an dem die Familie lebte. Also die Schankweiler (weiler = Dorf), die Lingelbachs (Bach = Bach), die Frankfurter usw. Oder (3) Nehmen Sie einen Nachnamen an, der darauf basiert, dass er „der Sohn von jemandem ist, dessen Vorname Hinzufügen des Präfixes „Von“ zum Vornamen des Vaters. Also die Von Brauns, die Von Eulers oder die Von Fürstenberges (dies ist ein Beispiel für eine Kombination der beiden letztgenannten Praktiken (d. h. Sohn des Mannes aus Fürstenberg).
Schließlich war das altdeutsche Wort für „Kamel“ „Wüstschiff“ – wörtlich „Schiff der Wüste“.
Quelle:
C981771 1694-1797 0488505 Film

Johann heiratete Runck, Eva Katharina am 22 Sep 1772 in Rohrbach, Kreis Südliche Weinstraße, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland. Eva wurde geboren in 1752 in Erlenbach bei Kandel, Kreis Germersheim, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland; gestorben am 9 Dez 1835 in Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Eva Catharina Runk

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Marcie Graham:
M981772 1694-1797 0193132 Film

Michael L. Wiest:
Quelle:
1. M981772 1694-1797 0193132 FilmSources:
2. Title: Harold M Wiest.FTW - Text: Date of Import: Jan 24, 2002

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Jakob Reidel

Notizen:

Familysearch.org:
ID: LHZM-F14

Jacob heiratete Winter, Eva Margaretha um 1773. Eva wurde geboren um 1751 in Erlenbach bei Kandel, Kreis Germersheim, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Familysearch.org:
ID: K1X4-46Z

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Michael Schneck

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Karl Stumpp:
Karl Stumpp: S.793#109

Katharina Wacker:
Born: 1850/1851

Michael heiratete Scheck, Dorothea - wife of geschätzt 1779. Dorothea wurde geboren um 1755; gestorben am 10 Dez 1834 in Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Johann heiratete Schweickardt, Maria Magdalena. Maria (Tochter von Schweickardt, Johann Adam und Becht, Christina Elisabetha) wurde geboren in 1745 in Lembach, Bas-Rhin, Elsaß, Frankreich; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Familysearch.org:
ID: LCM2-RQ1

Heinrich heiratete Freyacher, Anna Barbra geschätzt 1773 in Climbach, Bas-Rhin, Elsaß, Frankreich. Anna (Tochter von Freyacher, Johann Ulrich und Werele, Elisabeth) wurde geboren am 25 Feb 1731 in Climbach, Bas-Rhin, Elsaß, Frankreich; gestorben in 1808 in Climbach, Bas-Rhin, Elsaß, Frankreich. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Anna Barbra Freyacheger

Notizen:

Familysearch.org:
ID: 9SPK-6BL

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Johann, Hanss Michael Wiest, Wuest

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Lea Meister:
www.wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2713807&id=I02747

Michael L. Wiest:
Christening: 12 DEC 1717

Hans heiratete Crepel, Maria Johanna am 20 Jul 1745 in Rohrbach, Kreis Südliche Weinstraße, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland. Maria (Tochter von Crepel, Isaac und Petillon, Rachel) wurde geboren in 1717 in Rohrbach, Kreis Südliche Weinstraße, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Marie Jenne Grebel, Prepell

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Lea Meister:
Source:
diannebauer.com/Origns%20of%20Birth/ghtout/gp267.html

Hanss heiratete Döttweiler, Anna Naria. Anna wurde geboren geschätzt 1700; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Beruf: Lembach, Bas-Rhin, Elsaß, Frankreich; Pflüger und Stadtrat vor Gericht

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Familysearch.org:
ID: 9KC9-X52

Johann heiratete Becht, Christina Elisabetha. Christina (Tochter von Becht, Johann Peter) wurde geboren in 1721 in Climbach, Bas-Rhin, Elsaß, Frankreich; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Familysearch.org:
ID: 27C6-XC2

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Familysearch.org:
ID: K899-WJY

Johann heiratete Werele, Elisabeth geschätzt 1731 in Climbach, Bas-Rhin, Elsaß, Frankreich. Elisabeth (Tochter von Werele, Rudolph und Werele, Anna Catherine - wife of) wurde geboren um 1709 in Climbach, Bas-Rhin, Elsaß, Frankreich; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Familysearch.org:
ID: K8V6-2FW

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Johannes Wiest, Wuest

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Teresa G. Baldry:
Death: Rohrbach, Steinweiller, Pfalz, German

Eric Zimbelmann:
Source:
Person: Beiträge zur Aargauergeschichte
Familie: KB Steinweiler ref.

Johannes heiratete Matt, Anna Catharina am 10 Aug 1717 in Rohrbach, Kreis Südliche Weinstraße, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland. Anna (Tochter von Matt, Stephan) wurde geboren in 1695 in Rohrbach, Kreis Südliche Weinstraße, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland; gestorben in 1752 in ,,, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Anna Catharina Matten, Mattern

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Eric Zimbelmann:
Source:
Person: Beiträge zur Aargauergeschichte
Familie: KB Steinweiler ref.

Isaac heiratete Petillon, Rachel geschätzt 1716. Rachel wurde geboren in 1695 in Rohrbach, Kreis Südliche Weinstraße, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland; gestorben in 1750 in ,, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Johann heiratete Susse, Anna Maria. Anna wurde geboren geschätzt 1670; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Familysearch.org:
ID: 9KC9-H5Z

Notizen:

Familysearch.org:
ID: MC2H-5J6

Rudolph heiratete Werele, Anna Catherine - wife of geschätzt 1705. Anna wurde geboren geschätzt 1676 in Climbach, Bas-Rhin, Elsaß, Frankreich; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Samuel Wuest, Wiest

Notizen:

Crystal Walker:
Born: K Ttigen, Canton Aargau, Switzerland

Eric Zimbelmann:
Source:
Person: Beiträge zur Aargauergeschichte / ref. KB Steinweiler
Familie: Beiträge zur Aargauergeschichte

Samuel heiratete Wüst, Anna Katharina - wife of um 1687. Anna wurde geboren um 1654; gestorben am 23 Jul 1724 in Steinweiler, Kreis Germersheim, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Anna Catharina

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Teresa G. Baldry:
Born: Kuttigen, Aargua, Switzerland
Death: Kuttigen, Aargua, Switzerland

Eric Zimbelmann:
Source:
Person: Beiträge zur Aargauergeschichte / ref. KB Steinweiler
Familie: Beiträge zur Aargauergeschichte

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Matten

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Wiest
• Beruf: Küttigen, Aargau, Kanton Aargau, Schweiz; 1667 Almosenpfleger, 1679 Gerichtsschöffe

Notizen:

Teresa G. Baldry:
Born: 10. April 1631

Fred Wiest:
Taufe: Kirchberg Church, Kuettigen, Switzerland

Eric Zimbelmann:
Born: Küttigen, 4008, , Aargau, Schweiz ( Auf Kirchberg )
Source:
Person: Beiträge zur Aargauergeschichte

www.Diannebauer.com:
BIOGRAPHY: In 1657, one Samuel Wust and his wife, Margareta, migrated from Switzerland to the Palatinate, settling in Steinweiler, a village not far beyond the boundaries of Guttenberg. They had formerly resided in the town of Kutingen, canton Aargau, (Switz.). He was born in Küttigen and baptized on April 10, 1631, in the Kirchberg church as the son of Jacob Wüst and Barbara formerly Frey. Küttigen today is a suburb of Aarau, the Capital of the Canton of Aargau , and not very attractive. The little Kirchberg church is more so, standing on a hill overlooking the countryside. Incidentally, the Wüsts seem to come from that region. There are also Wüsts and Wüschts in that part of the country. The Canton or Aargau was subject country to the City of Bern at that time. It was Napoleon I who freed it from the Bern yoke in 1803.Notes from-Wiest Family History - excerpts from extensive research done by Pete and Annemarie from the Küttigen State Archives, Switzerland. July 2003:

Michael L. Wiest:
Note:
In 1657, one Samuel Wust and his wife, Margareta, migrated from Switzerland to the Palatinate, settling in Steinweiler, a village not far beyond the boundaries of Guttenberg. They had formerly resided in the town of Kutingen, canton Aargau, (Switz.).
This is not important to our line of descent [NOTE: This is Brian Barr Wiest speaking about his line of descent], for as stated, no precise relationship has been established between any of the Guttenberg Wusts and the Swiss families. But it does show a migratory pattern, and suggests that there is a relationship, albeit distant. This circumstance could apply to the first Georg Wust of Dierbach who, presumably, came from Austria.
Hi Herb and Mary Lee,
Yesterday we went to Küttigen and to the State Archive to check on one Samuel Wüst. Frankly, we didn't find much but have at least confirmed his birth...
Küttigen today is a suburb of Aarau, the Capital of the Canton of Aargau , and not very attractive. The little Kirchberg church is more so, standing on a hill overlooking the countryside.
Incidentally, the Wüsts seem to come from that region. There are also Wüsts and Wüschts in that part of the country. The Canton or Aargau was subject country to the City of Bern at that time. It was Napoleon I who freed it from the Bern yoke in 1803.
We are both fine. Annemarie's cataract operation was quite successful.
Right now we have thunderstorms breaking the heat wave we had since June.
This means, we just take it easy.
Take care. All the best
Pete and Annemarie
Samuel Wüst, Küttigen, Switzerland
Küttigen is situated near Aarau, the Capital of the Canton of Aargau. It has started to register marriages, baptisms and death starting 1605. Microfilms are available at the State Archive which we have visited today (July 16, 2003).
We have found the Samuel (1)Wüst mentioned in you r email dated May 20. He was born in Küttigen and baptized on April 10, 1631, in the Kirchberg church as the son of Jacob Wüst and Barbara formerly Frey.
We have not found a wedding entry of him and Margaretha Unknown. Presumably, they have not been married in the Kirchberg church.
We have not found a baptism entry of their son Samuel (2)Wüst, although we checked the registers from 1640 - 1657 (their date of departure to Steinweiler in the Pfalz). Nor have we found any brothers or sisters.
There are no other documents (population census or so) available from that period;
P.Schönholzer
July 17, 2003
Since Samuel was baptized on April 10, 1631, my guess is that he would have been born just a short time earlier in 1631.

Samuel heiratete Wüst, Margaretha - wife of geschätzt 1650. Margaretha wurde geboren um 1635 in Küttigen, Aargau, Kanton Aargau, Schweiz; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Margareta

Notizen:

Eric Zimbelmann:
Source:
Person: Wüst / Wiest Familienforschung

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Wiest

Notizen:

Fred Wiest:
Born: 1595/1599

Eric Zimbelmann:
Source:
Person: Beiträge zur Aargauergeschichte / Wüst-Wiest Familienforschung
Familie: Beiträge zur Aargauergeschichte

Jacob heiratete Frey, Barbara am 27 Sep 1620 in Küttigen, Aargau, Kanton Aargau, Schweiz. Barbara wurde geboren geschätzt 1600 in Küttigen, Aargau, Kanton Aargau, Schweiz; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Eric Zimbelmann:
Source:
Person: Beiträge zur Aargauergeschichte / Wüst-Wiest Familienforschung
Familie: Beiträge zur Aargauergeschichte

Notizen:

Eric Zimbelmann:
Source:
Person: Wüst / Wiest Familienforschung

Heinrich heiratete Dietiker, Anna geschätzt 1597. Anna wurde geboren geschätzt 1573 in ,,, Schweiz; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Eric Zimbelmann:
Note:
Vielleicht aus Thalheim, Bezirk Brugg Aargau ?
Source:
Person: Wüst / Wiest Familienforschung