Wiest, Johann Franz

männlich 1772 - 1846  (73 Jahre)


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  • Name Wiest, Johann Franz 
    Geboren 30 Dez 1772  Rohrbach, Kreis Südliche Weinstraße, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland Suche alle Personen mit Ereignissen an diesem Ort  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12
    Getauft 30 Dez 1772  Rohrbach, Kreis Südliche Weinstraße, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland Suche alle Personen mit Ereignissen an diesem Ort  [5, 10, 12
    Geschlecht männlich 
    Gestorben 12 Apr 1846  Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland Suche alle Personen mit Ereignissen an diesem Ort  [2, 5, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13
    Personen-Kennung I18012  Zimbelmann
    Zuletzt bearbeitet am 19 Aug 2019 

    Vater Wüst, Johann Jakob,   geb. 14 Dez 1745, Rohrbach, Kreis Südliche Weinstraße, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland Suche alle Personen mit Ereignissen an diesem Ort,   gest. Datum unbekannt 
    Mutter Runk, Eva Katharina,   geb. 1752, Erlenbach, Kreis Germersheim, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland Suche alle Personen mit Ereignissen an diesem Ort,   gest. Datum unbekannt 
    Verheiratet 22 Sep 1772  Rohrbach, Kreis Südliche Weinstraße, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland Suche alle Personen mit Ereignissen an diesem Ort  [6, 9, 11, 12, 14
    Familien-Kennung F6212  Familienblatt  |  Familientafel

    Familie 1 Riedel, Eva Margaretha,   geb. 1774, Erlenbach, Kreis Germersheim, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland Suche alle Personen mit Ereignissen an diesem Ort,   gest. 1815, Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland Suche alle Personen mit Ereignissen an diesem Ort  (Alter 41 Jahre) 
    Verheiratet 9 Feb 1794  Erlenbach, Kreis Germersheim, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland Suche alle Personen mit Ereignissen an diesem Ort  [6, 9, 15
    Notizen 
    • Marcie Graham:
      Married: Erlenbach Kandel, Pfalz, Bayern
    Kinder 
    +1. Wiest, Andreas,   geb. 1794, Erlenbach, Kreis Germersheim, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland Suche alle Personen mit Ereignissen an diesem Ort,   gest. 17 Nov 1840, Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland Suche alle Personen mit Ereignissen an diesem Ort  (Alter 46 Jahre)
    +2. Wiest, Johannes Jacob,   geb. 20 Mrz 1799, Erlenbach, Kreis Germersheim, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland Suche alle Personen mit Ereignissen an diesem Ort,   gest. 6 Dez 1846, Leipzig, Gebiet Akkermann, Region Bessarabien, Rußland Suche alle Personen mit Ereignissen an diesem Ort  (Alter 47 Jahre)
     3. Wiest, Johann Michael,   geb. 10 Mai 1800, Erlenbach, Kreis Germersheim, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland Suche alle Personen mit Ereignissen an diesem Ort,   gest. 13 Aug 1803, Erlenbach, Kreis Germersheim, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland Suche alle Personen mit Ereignissen an diesem Ort  (Alter 3 Jahre)
    +4. Wiest, Jakob I.,   geb. Okt 1801, Erlenbach, Kreis Germersheim, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland Suche alle Personen mit Ereignissen an diesem Ort,   gest. nach 1854  (Alter ~ 53 Jahre)
     5. Wiest, Maria Anna,   geb. 6 Aug 1802, Erlenbach, Kreis Germersheim, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland Suche alle Personen mit Ereignissen an diesem Ort,   gest. vor 1816  (Alter 13 Jahre)
    +6. Wiest, Philipp Peter,   geb. 27 Jul 1803, Erlenbach, Kreis Germersheim, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland Suche alle Personen mit Ereignissen an diesem Ort,   gest. nach 1855, Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland Suche alle Personen mit Ereignissen an diesem Ort  (Alter 52 Jahre)
    +7. Wiest, Eva Barbara,   geb. 25 Mai 1805, Erlenbach, Kreis Germersheim, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland Suche alle Personen mit Ereignissen an diesem Ort,   gest. 6 Jul 1855, Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland Suche alle Personen mit Ereignissen an diesem Ort  (Alter 50 Jahre)
    +8. Wiest, Sebastian,   geb. 26 Mrz 1807, Erlenbach, Kreis Germersheim, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland Suche alle Personen mit Ereignissen an diesem Ort,   gest. vor 1876  (Alter 68 Jahre)
     9. Wiest, Michael,   geb. 18 Jan 1809, Erlenbach, Kreis Germersheim, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland Suche alle Personen mit Ereignissen an diesem Ort,   gest. vor 1816, Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland Suche alle Personen mit Ereignissen an diesem Ort  (Alter 6 Jahre)
    +10. Wiest, Katharina Elisabetha,   geb. 1810, Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland Suche alle Personen mit Ereignissen an diesem Ort,   gest. Datum unbekannt
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    Familien-Kennung F6213  Familienblatt  |  Familientafel

    Familie 2 Riedel, Christina,   geb. 1771, Erlenbach, Kreis Germersheim, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland Suche alle Personen mit Ereignissen an diesem Ort,   gest. Datum unbekannt 
    Verheiratet um 1816  Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland Suche alle Personen mit Ereignissen an diesem Ort  [5, 6
    Kinder 
     1. Wiest, Barbara,   geb. 6 Aug 1817, Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland Suche alle Personen mit Ereignissen an diesem Ort,   gest. 13 Feb 1853, Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland Suche alle Personen mit Ereignissen an diesem Ort  (Alter 35 Jahre)
    Zuletzt bearbeitet am 17 Jan 2015 
    Familien-Kennung F27865  Familienblatt  |  Familientafel

  • Ereignis-Karte
    Link zu Google MapsGeboren - 30 Dez 1772 - Rohrbach, Kreis Südliche Weinstraße, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland Link zu Google Earth
    Link zu Google MapsGetauft - 30 Dez 1772 - Rohrbach, Kreis Südliche Weinstraße, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland Link zu Google Earth
    Link zu Google MapsVerheiratet - 9 Feb 1794 - Erlenbach, Kreis Germersheim, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland Link zu Google Earth
    Link zu Google MapsVerheiratet - um 1816 - Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland Link zu Google Earth
    Link zu Google MapsGestorben - 12 Apr 1846 - Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland Link zu Google Earth
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  • Notizen 
    • Karl Stumpp:
      Karl Stumpp: S791#69 Erlenbach/Germersheim-Pf

      www.pixel.cs.vt.edu:
      Death: 1882638/1 95 8 - 74 yrs

      James-Sergent :
      Kind Jacob Weisheit 1810-1854 aufgelistet

      Robert Morgenthaler:
      Death: 10 April 1846

      Fred Wiest:
      Born: Erlenbach, Kandel, Pfalz, Bayern
      Death: 4/10/1846

      Karen Abel:
      UID: 83B5CF75E2D143DA93BEE33652684248FA5F
      Note: From Erlenbach/Germersheim-Pfalz.
      Sources:
      1. Title: Die Deutsche Auswanderung Nach Russland 1763-1862 - Author: Karl Stumpp

      Michael L. Wiest:
      Death: 10 Apr 1846
      Source:
      C981771 1694-1797 0488505 Film
      The following is taken from the book, "Homesteaders on the Steppe" by Joseph S. Height.
      The Beresan district
      The colony of Rohrbach. Est. 1809
      The village of Rohrbach was located in the Zerigul valley, 40 versts west of the Bug river, and 100 versts northeast of Odessa. It was only 20 versts from Landau, which was the administrative center of the newly established Beresan Colony.
      The Crownland apportioned to the colony of Rohrbach amounted to 8,333 desss. (or 22,500 acres), a tract of land large enough to provide a living for 150 families. The first settlers, consisting of 26 families, were conducted to the Zerigul valley in the fall of 1809 by Chief Mayor Brittner of Grossliebental. The following spring, Commissioner von Rosenkampf conducted another 69 families, with their leader Michael Kuhn, from their winter quarters in the colonies in the environs of Odessa, to the place of settlement. Of the 95 families, 56 had emigrated fro Alsace and the Palatinate, 33 were from Baden, 4 from Würtemberg, and 2 from Prussian Poland; in all about 450 souls.
      Since a large number of the earliest settlers were from the Palatinate, the settlement was named after the town of Rohrbach, in the district of Bergzabern. It seems that the first homesteaders were put up in stone dwellings. Each family also received the necessary livestock, farm equipment, and seed grain, for which the families were granted an advance loan of 100,490 rubles. The cash assets of the immigrants amounted to some 40,000 rubles.
      In 1813 another 27 families arrived from Prussian Poland, and 4 more families from Württemberg. In 1816, according to the earliest available census, the village of Rohrbach had 130 families, with a population of 602 souls (312 men and 287 women). From 1817 - 19 another 22 families, of which 16 were from Baden, were settled. In the next two decades 31 families moved away to other colonies. Despite this loss, however, the population of Rohrbach was 683 in 1838, and rose to 1,178 in 1847. For the 217 families, the available area of Crownland per family was about 40 dess., or 100 acres.
      Further on in the book it states:
      "Out of partiality to the village of Rohrbach (Pfalz) from which they had emigrated, the two colonists Peter Schmidt and Peter Nuss, who arrived at this place among the first, gave the colony the name of Rohrbach." (As Peter Nuss is known to have immigrated from Rohrbach/Bergzabern, Pfalz, the Rohrbach referred to was in the Palatinate, not in Baden. Translator's note.)"
      Departures: In `1818, ten families went to Grusinia, in 1823, 11 families moved to Odessa and to other colonies............ (This could explain why Johann on his immigration papers says he was from Odessa. However, he could just have put that because it was a larger area).

      Marcie Graham:
      1) Franz Wiest, with family including Johannes, came to Rohrbach in 5 Oct 1809 from Erlenbach , Germersheim, Germany
      2) In 1843, 10 families moved to Bessarabia from Rohrbach (including Johannes Wiest)
      3) In 1898, Jacob Wiest and family immigrated to Heil, ND, Usa from Bessarabia. Jacob Wiest became a wealthy sheep rancher.
      4) In 1910, Jacob Wiest returned to Leipzig, Bessarabia. (Jacob had a flour mill in Kurudschika) He told his children that if they wanted any part of the inheritance, they had to come with him. Only the oldest daughter Sophia (who was engaged) stayed behind. In 1912 Michael Wiest was drafted into the Russian Army, and served for 6 years 7 months. (NOTE: The Seidel children did not return to Europe with the rest of the Wiest family)
      5) Near Christmas 1925, Michael, Henry, and Ella (Keller) Wiest were on board the ship the "Sierra Coradoba" (sp) to Brazil. They lived in Brazil for 2+ years before coming to the USA in April 1928.
      6) In April 1928, Michael Wiest and family moved to Ralston, Washington.
      NOTE: THe Grosses came to the US in 1902, the Schaal's in 1907, and the Wiest's (first in 1899, then again in 1928)
      The storming of the Bastille on 14 July, 1789 marked the beginning of the French revolution . The monarchy fell in 1791 and soon a coalition of nine neighboring states declared war on the new republic in an effort to restore the monarchy. Early French setbacks were soon reversed and by the end of 1793 the allies were pushed back east of the Rhine; Alsace and the Palati nate were ceded to France and Mainz was recaptured. Among the foremost French military leader s was Napoleon Bonaparte. In early 1796 the 26 year old Napoleon was placed in command of the entire French army.
      That same year, French troops invaded the Upper Rhine. The entire Rhine valley, Württembe rg, Franconia and Bavaria were occupied. The enemy troops "descended upon the German populace like swarms of hungry wolves. The contributions and requisitionings were terrible. The sold iers abused the land to the utmost: I blush with shame to lead an army that behaves in such a n unworthy manner ..", wrote General Jourdan. In 1799 Napoleon staged a coup d'etat and wa s made First Counsel with nearly dictatorial powers.
      On 9 February, 1801 peace was concluded with Austria at Lunéville. The accord set, among other things, the Rhine River, from Switzerland to the Netherlands, as the eastern boundary of France. The results of a plebescite in 1802 made Napoleon First Counsul for life and in May of 1804 he was elected Emperor. The year 1805 saw the formation of the Third Coalition by Great Britain, Russia, Austria, Sweden and the Kingdom of Naples with the goal to forc e France back behind its former borders. On the same day, October 20, the French defeated th e Austrians at Ulm, Admiral Nelson defeated the French fleet at Trafalgar. In July, 1806 sixt een German states formed the Confederation of the Rhine, with Napoleon as protector. Under th is protectorate, several areas northeast and southwest of Kirn were ceded to Baden in 1803, encompassing the towns of Henau, Schwarzerden and Weitersborn. The years 1800-1810 ushered in hard times and the men were conscripted into the French Army. Many young men forsook their fatherland to escape military service and are found in the lists of emigration. - Joh. Frantz WUEST

  • Quellen 
    1. [S67] Karen Abel , Uwe Zimbelmann, (www.wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com).

    2. [S68] James Sergent , Uwe Zimbelmann, (wc.rootsweb.com).

    3. [S70] Fredrick R.Wiest, Uwe Zimbelmann, (www.wiestfamily.com/WiestFamilyHome/home.htm).

    4. [S111] Karl Stumpp, Uwe Zimbelmann.

    5. [S117] Michael L. Wiest, Uwe Zimbelmann, (www.wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com).

    6. [S120] Marcie Graham, Uwe Zimbelmann, (www.familytreemaker.genealogy.com/).

    7. [S121] Crystal Walker, Uwe Zimbelmann, (http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/w/a/l/Crystal--Walker/index.html).

    8. [S128] Mary Mauch, Uwe Zimbelmann, (www.ancestry.de).

    9. [S157] Fred Wiest, Uwe Zimbelmann, (www.fredwiest.com).

    10. [S208] Robert Morgenthaler, Uwe Zimbelmann, (http://de.geneanet.org/profil/robmor/Robert-Morgenthaler).

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