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Theurer, Johann Bernhard

männlich 1774 - nach 1820  (> 47 Jahre)


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  • Name Theurer, Johann Bernhard 
    Geburt 2 Sep 1774  Neckarweihingen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland Suche alle Personen mit Ereignissen an diesem Ort  [1
    Geschlecht männlich 
    Tod nach 1820  Peterstal, Gebiet Großliebental, Region Odessa, Rußland Suche alle Personen mit Ereignissen an diesem Ort  [1
    Personen-Kennung I94051  Zimbelmann
    Zuletzt bearbeitet am 10 Jun 2012 

    Familie Harmayer, Regina,   geb. 13 Mai 1778, Erdmannhausen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland Suche alle Personen mit Ereignissen an diesem Ortgest. 27 Feb 1841, Peterstal, Gebiet Großliebental, Region Odessa, Rußland Suche alle Personen mit Ereignissen an diesem Ort (Alter 62 Jahre) 
    Eheschließung 6 Mai 1802  Erdmannhausen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland Suche alle Personen mit Ereignissen an diesem Ort  [1
    Kinder 
    +1. Theurer, Elisabetha Magdalena,   geb. 30 Jul 1813, Erdmannhausen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland Suche alle Personen mit Ereignissen an diesem Ortgest. 12 Nov 1863, Großliebental, Gebiet Großliebental, Region Odessa, Rußland Suche alle Personen mit Ereignissen an diesem Ort (Alter 50 Jahre)
    Familien-Kennung F29111  Familienblatt  |  Familientafel

  • Ereignis-Karte
    Link zu Google MapsGeburt - 2 Sep 1774 - Neckarweihingen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland Link zu Google Earth
    Link zu Google MapsEheschließung - 6 Mai 1802 - Erdmannhausen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland Link zu Google Earth
    Link zu Google MapsTod - nach 1820 - Peterstal, Gebiet Großliebental, Region Odessa, Rußland Link zu Google Earth
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  • Notizen 
    • Karen Abel:
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      MARRIAGE
      (From Erdmannhausen archivist, Dieter Duill)
      "On the occasion of a marriage the couple had before, or not long after, the ceremony to establish a marriage inventory at the village/town hall. The THEURER oo HARTMAYER (-MAIER) original inventory at our archives has about 20 pages (in the beautiful old German script) of everything they possessed. Bernhard THEURER was given 800 fl=florins=Gulden and 30 x=Kreuzer (1 fl=60x) in cash by his father. Regina THEURER owned fields, vineyards, meadows worth 1,092 florins, plus movables (her clothes, bedlinen, household contents) all listed up in detail worth 50 fl 48 x. After the deduction of borrowed money of 390 fl 20 x, the whole sum was 1,539 fl 58 x. The document is signed by the THEURER couple.. To give you an idea of how much money this was, an average farm house would have cost about 500/600 fl."
      EMIGRATION
      From Dieter Duill, Erdmannhausen archivist: "People who wanted to emigrate officially had to appear before the local council to ask for consent. Bernhard, 44, and Regina, 40, did so in April 1819 (minutes of the council). They owned 2,000 fl now. Often enough, councils were glad to let people go, those who only owned next to nothing or up to about 100/300 fl, or so. But as the THEURERs owned quite some money the council asked them to stay, probably also telling them of the dangers of the long journey, during which many people died and never arrived at the 'promised land'. But as Bernhard and Regina insisted on emigrating, the council finally gave its consent. Together with the THEURERs, Regina's 'Kriegsvogt'=curator ad litem (Latin)=court guardian appeared before the council. As married women did not have full equal rights at court or council, they had to have a spokesman."
      The Erdmannhausen Family Register for Johann Bernhard Theurer says: "Er ist mit Frau and allen seinen Kindern in der Nacht Zwischen dem 7ten and 8ten Juli 1819 in das südliche Rußland ausgewandert." (He emigrated with his wife and all his children to southern Russia in the night between the 7th and 8th of July 1819.)
      According to Karl Stumpp's book: "Theurer, Joh. Bernhard, aus Erdmannshausen/Ludwigsburg/Wu, 1819, nach Freudental/Od; Fr: Christiane; S: Joh. Jakob 15, Georg Friedr. 12, Johannes 8, Joh. Gerhard 1". This information would appear to be accurate except for the names of his wife and youngest son. Also, it does not include the daughters who came with him.
      Another reference was found in "Ostwanderung der Wuerttemberger 1816-1822". Table 23 is an 'Index of Emigrants from Ober Amt Marbach 23 Apr 1819-Dec 1822'. This table lists the following:
      Joh. Bernh. Theurer, Farmer from Erdmannhausen
      Wife Regina
      Children: Jakob 15, Gg. Frdr. 12, Sibille Katar. 9, Johs. 8, Elis. Magd. 5, Joh. Gerh. 1
      Fortune: 2000 fl.
      Guarantor: Jak. Pommer [NOTE: Jacob Pommer was a witness at the baptisms of the Theurer children.]
      PETERSTAL
      Bernhardt Theurer is on the list of Peterstal colonists who received wheat seed in the fall of 1820 and spring of 1821. (Fond #252-1-280)
      In a document regarding land distribution in Peterstal, signed on 5 May 1827, one of those signing was "Burgermeister Theurer." This was most likely Bernhard, as his oldest son would have been only 23 years old.
      HISTORY
      (NOTE: Source unknown; received from Lola Weber)
      "Chapter One: Freudental, South Russia 1819 - The icy wind rose howling across the Russian prairie as Johan 'Bernhard' Theurer and his family finally reached their destination of Freudental, a beautiful little village laid out on the north bank of the Baraboi River about 20 miles west of Odessa in southern Russia. It has been a long and grueling trip from Erdmannhausen, Ludwigsburg, Wurttemberg in Germany; but as they rode in their wagon, Bernhard's eyes sparkled with pleasure at the strange magnetic power of the scene before him. They could see that it was rich with grasslands and on the south bank of the river there were several lofty hills which would provide fine building stone for their new home. Upon their arrival into the village, they were warmly greeted by the Abel family, the Vogels' and the Schillings' who were all from the same district of Ludwigsburg. ..
      "For the Theurer family, a farming family, the poor harvest in Germany in the years 1809 through 1816 led Bernhard to look to the promised land in the East to provide a future for his four sons. Bernhard's oldest son, Johan 'Jacob' was 15 years old and soon ready to be on his own. The raising of sheep was a very important enterprise in Freudental from the very beginning of the settlement. Bernhard's sons, Georg Friedrich, age 12 and Johanes, age 8, spent many an hour tending sheep for their father.
      "However, only a few short years after settling in Freudental, there was a shortage of acreage for Bernhard and his sons to grow as the population of the colony increased considerably. By 1828 it had become necessary to establish a daughter colony named Neu-Freudental where 47 families resettled. Most of the families were sons and daughters of the mother colony, however, a few came directly from the Kingdom of Wurttemberg after a brief stay in Freudental."
      Sources:
      1. Title: Erdmannhausen Church Books, 1662-1932 - Evangelische Kirche Erdmannhausen (OA Marbach)
      2. Title: Neckarweihingen Church Books, 1590-1911 - Ev. Kirche Neckarweihingen (OA Ludwigsburg) - #1195660
      3. Title: Erdmannhausen Church Books, 1662-1932 - Evangelische Kirche Erdmannhausen (OA Marbach) - #1187177

  • Quellen 
    1. [S67] Karen Abel , (wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com).