Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 3D297E321C904D1DAB19AA5F162C70B35E79
Sources:
1. Title: Alpirsbach Church Books, 1596-1903 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Alpirsbach (OA Oberndorf)

Simon heiratete Lieb, Anna Margaretha am 28 Apr 1711 in Freudenstadt, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Anna (Tochter von Lieb, Hans Jacob und Lieb, Anna Barbara - wife of) wurde geboren am 6 Jul 1687 in Freudenstadt, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 16 Nov 1770 in Alpirsbach, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: C14DD802D53B4CAFBB30F7842C9A62CB4CB4
Born: 8 Jan 1711/12
Sources:
1. Title: Alpirsbach Church Books, 1596-1903 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Alpirsbach (OA Oberndorf)

Familie/Ehepartner: unbekannt. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 6C3AB2E19C684EF5B5D72AE58B733F59B11A
Sources:
1. Title: Alpirsbach Church Books, 1596-1903 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Alpirsbach (OA Oberndorf)

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: ADE99C5D5154430EB76FDE82F7F4EABA9A01
RESEARCH
A note was added to the baptism record for Catharina Margaretha stating that she married Christian Friedrich Harr on 11 Aug 1733 and died on 10 Dec 1793
Sources:
1. Title: Alpirsbach Church Books, 1596-1903 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Alpirsbach (OA Oberndorf) - #1884483 -3
2. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Catharina heiratete Harr, Christian Friedrich am 11 Aug 1733 in Alpirsbach, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Christian (Sohn von Harr, Johannes und Gläser, Anna Catharina) wurde geboren am 29 Jan 1710 in Glatten, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 21 Dez 1784 in Glatten, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: D31A89866E564792854190F19C726641959B
Sources:
1. Title: Sippenatlas der in Glatten Lebenden Geschlechter, 1559-1967-Otto Strobel, Pfarrern in Glatten-#1884494, p. 63-72

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 954DFE00D5A746CEA7C6F979686A9E783741
Sources:
1. Title: Sippenatlas der in Glatten Lebenden Geschlechter, 1559-1967-Otto Strobel, Pfarrern in Glatten-#1884494, p. 63-72

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: A6CF439638474D39B6A53245D8F976D4403C
Born: 15 Feb 1737/38
Sources:
1. Title: Sippenatlas der in Glatten Lebenden Geschlechter, 1559-1967-Otto Strobel, Pfarrern in Glatten-#1884494, p. 63-72

Anna heiratete Walz, Unbekannt am 17 Mai 1759. Unbekannt wurde geboren geschätzt 1735; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 8ABC827E97954B258BBCD52AE35BCAC4F41D
Death: 1 Jan 1744/45
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)
2. Title: Sippenatlas der in Glatten Lebenden Geschlechter, 1559-1967-Otto Strobel, Pfarrern in Glatten-#1884494, p. 63-72

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: E1B7D5989A294919A508F7A41B6F736DDC47
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)
2. Title: Sippenatlas der in Glatten Lebenden Geschlechter, 1559-1967-Otto Strobel, Pfarrern in Glatten-#1884494, p. 63-72

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 90A930D8B49D41BC823741783FF68A1FDF54
Sources:
1. Title: Sippenatlas der in Glatten Lebenden Geschlechter, 1559-1967-Otto Strobel, Pfarrern in Glatten-#1884494, p. 63-72

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: D0C03A726A034BBC9FB44C1A2D1FC6F16C95
Born: 16 Mar 1749/50
Sources:
1. Title: Ralph Wiseman
2. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt) - #1884493 -3

Johann heiratete Göhring, Anna Maria am 15 Jun 1773 in Glatten, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Anna (Tochter von Göhring, Andreas und Zahn, Anna) wurde geboren am 20 Aug 1754 in Grömbach, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 8 Jun 1819 in Grömbach, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: C10EDE5963D54E6EA74C9CC504CD8C18C3B4
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)
2. Title: Sippenatlas der in Glatten Lebenden Geschlechter, 1559-1967-Otto Strobel, Pfarrern in Glatten-#1884494, p. 63-72

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 22E7CBA86AEC4291B582D9A1B8F6C6E0AAB3
Sources:
1. Title: Sippenatlas der in Glatten Lebenden Geschlechter, 1559-1967-Otto Strobel, Pfarrern in Glatten-#1884494, p. 63-72

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 9D72170C2EA44707850ADE0590646C94B828
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Johannes heiratete Schraymann, Anna am 5 Feb 1782 in Glatten, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Anna wurde geboren am 19 Mrz 1765; gestorben am 22 Aug 1820 in Glatten, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Johannes heiratete Harr, Magdalena - wife of am 15 Nov 1821 in Glatten, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Magdalena wurde geboren am 4 Nov 1769; gestorben am 12 Dez 1829 in Glatten, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: B29B414B05234B7193D3817377B39D12F019
IMMIGRATION: Jacob Friedrich's application for immigration to Neudorf, Odessa, Russia was made on 4 Jun 1817 and approved on 12 Jun 1817
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Jacob heiratete Matt, Anna Barbara am 27 Nov 1799 in Glatten, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Anna (Tochter von Matt, Christian und Bohunt, Christina) wurde geboren am 17 Sep 1776 in Glatten, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 18001F63F1A74A6BBD7258E751954FFC868F
Married: Not Married - 1 Spouse Unknown
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Familie/Ehepartner: unbekannt. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 92C67D70ACD24A958CEDBD8C9C5202378B1D
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: F2489998633B46B6B474A4F3A881FCDFC81A
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 8C768B6D0F414547B8BE6EA8A3FAE32103AC
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 7783D1BF1313422286E0A64F1ADD21992052
OCCUPATION
On his marriage record and the record for the birth of his son, Johannes, it indicates that Johann David Harr was a shoemaker.
IMMIGRATION
Johann David's application for immigration to Russia was made on 4 Jun 1817 and approved on 12 Jun 1817.
According to GRCA #1 CD, David Harr went to Neudorf in the Taurien, NOT Neudorf in Odessa (as indicated in Stumpp)
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)
2. Title: Grömbach Church Books, 1658-1984 - Evangelische Kirche Grömbach (OA Freudenstadt) - #1201986

Johann heiratete Stockinger, Agnes Margaretha am 15 Feb 1816 in Grömbach, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Agnes (Tochter von Stockinger, Johann Ulrich und Roller, Anna Maria) wurde geboren am 19 Jun 1778 in Grömbach, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben vor 1833 in ,,, Rußland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: B5F429E5236C4F768BD566062C2B9E592572
EMIGRATION TO RUSSIA
The Glatten family book register for the family of Johann David Harr and Anna Maria Gühring shows that their children Jacob Friedrich, Johann David, Johannes, Johann Matthaus and Anna Maria all emigrated to Russia. Passport data can be found for Friedrich and David in 1817. As the other three were not married at the time, it is possible that they traveled under the passport of one of their older married brothers. It is known that Johannes arrived in Russia in 1817. His date of birth corresponds very closely to that calculated from the ages in the documents below. While one of those documents gives his place of origin as Glatt (rather than Glatten), no record of a Johannes Harr from Glatt can be found. Based on other information, it is currently assumed that he was actually this Johannes from Glatten.
DOCUMENTS FROM RUSSIA
Fond #252-1-535 --About accepting the immigrant Johann Harr into the number of the colonists of Grossliebental.
*5 March 1826 - Württemberg immigrant Johann Harr, who arrived in 1817 through Ismail quarantine and did not come in 1822 to be registered for the new revision lists, wishes now to be accepted into the number of the colonists of the Colony Grossliebental, about whose acceptance the local colonists declared their agreement.. The attachments under A and B, the name list about his family, I submit all of this to the Office for their approval..
*15 March 1826 - ..Johann Harr..who wishes to be accepted into the number of the colonists of the Colony Grossliebental, about whose acceptance the local community declared their agreement and that decision was submitted to the Office for approval together with the name list of Harr's family and the supervisor submits this Grossliebental community's aggreement to accept immigrant Harr and his family of 1 male and 3 female members.. the immigrant Johann Harr as well as his wife Margaretha actually arrived in 1817 to Russia through the Ismail quarantine, being then single, both with the standard passport and each of them had to pay 50 rubles of state quarantine debt.
*Attachment A, in German, dated 24 November 1825 - We, who are signing in the name of the community of the Grossliebental colonists, hereby certify that we shall accept and take into our midst the colonist Johann Harr, who arrived here, unmarried, in the year 1817 by way of Ismail, but who, however, married Margaretha Koch in the same year, together with his entire family, which consists of one male and 4 female souls. - Followed by 21 signatures.
*Attachment B, also in German, dated 28 January 1826 - a form with the name list for the family of colonist Johann Harr:
Arrived in 1817 by way of Ismail quarantine.
Johann Harr 35, wife Margaretha 32, daughters Anna 6, Charlotta 4, Cathrina 2.
Place of birth: "von Glatt, Oberamt Sulz in Württemberg"
Occupation: Schäfer
Residence: Grossliebental
*14 May 1826 - To Kherson financial office-The Office sends 2 copies of revision lists about newly accepted colonist Johann Harr and asks to accept Harr into the number of the colonists of Grossliebental, Tiraspol district, from 1827 and with benefits from 1817.
Fond #252-1-729 --Case of issuing emergency passports in Liebental district. Began in January 1830, completed 24 May 1830.
Grossliebental colonist Johann Harr (shepherd) wants to get a one-year passport to live with his family in Cherson, Tauria and Ekaterinoslav provinces earning his profession. Since this colonist doesn't have his farmstead and has guarantors for the future, the office asks for giving him a one-year passport. Legal duty of 5 silver rubles and 10 rubles for charitable institutions are enclosed.
Passport - By decree of his Majesty, Tsar and Emperor Nicholas Pavlovich, Ruler of all Russia.. Presenter of this, colonist of Odessa district, Colony Grossliebental, Johann Harr with family that consists of 2 males and 5 females, who has a state debt, discharged into Odessa district for personal needs from below written date for one year, that is until 19 October 1829. After this date he must come back; otherwise he will be subject to the law. Issued from Odessa Department of Foreign Settlers with attachment of a seal on 19 October 1828 in the State Colony of Tiraspol district.
Description:
Age: 39 - Height: small - Hair: blond - Eyebrows: blond - Eyes: blue - Nose: ordinary - Mouth: same - Chin: small
Face: pock-marked
Fond #252-1-878 (translated by Serge Yelizarov) -- About giving passports to colonists of Liebental district
To: Odessa Bureau of Foreign Settlers
Received: June 10, 1831
From: Liebental District Office
We ask to give/extend a one-year passport to Johann Harr with his family, who arrived through Ismail in 1817 and is registered in Gross-Liebental, to be a sheep-farmer at the estate of general Koble in Odessa uyezd. There are no obstacles from the community side, since all 1831 taxes have been paid and therefore his passport where his distinctive marks are pointed is true. - June 6, 1831
For midclass citizens and peasants; for the term less than one year; price 5 Rubles
By Ukaz of his Majesty, Emperor Nicolay Pavlovich
The bearer of this, colonist of Gross-Liebental Johann Harr with his wife Margaretha 38 years old, son Johann and daughters Anna, Lotta, Catharina and Barbara, with the state debt upon him, is allowed to go to various towns and villages of Cherson, Ekaterinoslav and Taurida provinces for personal needs, beginning from the date pointed below and for the term of one year, i.e. till May 8th of 1831 with getting back by then, to be prosecuted by the law otherwise. Given and sealed by Odessa Bureau of Foreign Settlers on May 8, 1830 in Odessa.
Distinctive Marks:
Age - 40 - Stature - low - Hair/brows - fair - Eyes - blue - Nose/mouth - regular - Chin - small - Face - pitted
Sources:
1. Title: Documents from Odessa - researched and provided by Serge Elizarov
2. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)
3. Title: Article by Johann Jacob Harr (born 1853)
4. Title: Odessa St. Paul Evangelical Lutheran Church Family Book--630-1-355 - Publication: GRHS, 2002

Johannes heiratete Koch, Margaretha in 1817 in ,, Region Odessa, Rußland. Margaretha (Tochter von Koch, Adam Friedrich und Haag, Anna Catharina) wurde geboren am 6 Jan 1792 in Schwaikheim, Rems-Murr-Kreis, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; getauft am 7 Jan 1792 in Schwaikheim, Rems-Murr-Kreis, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 1 Mrz 1870 in Alexanderhilf, Gebiet Großliebental, Region Odessa, Rußland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 05A34756B5FE43F48D46323F6D62780DC745
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 2ACF5BC73EF84D1490B131F9DDC8D47A1064
NOTE: According to Family Register pages for Glatten, Anna Maria went to Russia
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Notizen:

Karen Abel.
UID: 5C1BBFB75FDA4F008D6AFACDE3C83EF7137C
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: E135AD8061AD47EE992D20B6DFED186A706E
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: C22441AF4DCC4F35802D7C3C4C431CAE312E
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 23249305FA41466982C9B0E5820BB43F297F
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Friedrich heiratete Harr, Maria Catharina - wife of am 18 Feb 1835 in Glatten, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Maria wurde geboren geschätzt 1794; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 16027A2BC57B4B5FACA1CC74F6019AD297D7
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: DC45D74AB7F84627B5A733DB650367B54C78
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: C7FEB2BCB346461392A4798F4EB071E91B27
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 7166EB95AEC246E4AC27C45EBFFFA39CE36D
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 22807D38813E4ABA88E904B4A75BF1DB1117
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 1CFE3DB7E6384ABDBC452FE3CFF8370347DD
Born: Stillborn
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: DF3EED83BDEC44339AD724736E75E44BC794
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 450F7BA8DA2F4B12A42BEFC5854F3F930612
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: CA1DCE32AB304942873C78E9C741CAA8EBB5
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: DF334A6E6BCA40028E2656074450F8ECCA50
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 34086B9675D249FCBB34A3FCE2F880570831
NOTE
The following are found in Stumpp's book in the 1858 census for Neudorf:
Christian Harr 63 - wife Barbara - grandchildren: Jakob 18 - Barbara 16 - Johann 11
Went to Neudorf in 1810.
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Familie/Ehepartner: Harr, Barbara - wife of. Barbara wurde geboren geschätzt 1808; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 8DFD06D370964951929CBCE0C76308ACABB0
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 5B9EB5C34AF34E6B8EB998F2CE5F639C64F7
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 68F2CFDC042F42D094423EC7CB0DD605D80E
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 0BEE8E4569514B71AC5D4EB2B7363AF36553
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 1DFA163CF4C4491A9E48E4B67208EE0A76EA
Sources:
1. Title: The Eckman-Harr Heritage Book - Author: Josephine Welder Eckman - Publication: 1982

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: E7C0D54AE0DD47CB95D723419D8A35571873
Sources:
1. Title: The Eckman-Harr Heritage Book - Author: Josephine Welder Eckman - Publication: 1982

Jacob heiratete Haas, Barbara am 17 Sep 1839 in Glatten, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Barbara wurde geboren am 20 Jul 1812 in ,,, Deutschland; gestorben am 14 Apr 1888 in Glatten, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 4D4D54268B80474DA3015F0BCE94CC01F075
Sources:
1. Title: Grömbach Church Books, 1658-1984 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Grömbach (OA Freudenstadt)

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Hanna, Hannah, Annetta

Notizen:

Michael L. Wiest:
Sources:
1. Title: 1858 Russian Census of Rohrbach - ABBR 1858 Russian Census of Rohrbach
2. Title: Harold M Wiest.FTW - Media: Other - Text: Date of Import: Jan 24, 2002

Anna heiratete Klink, Johann geschätzt 1840. Johann wurde geboren geschätzt 1815 in Großliebental, Gebiet Großliebental, Region Odessa, Rußland; gestorben in 1856 in Großliebental, Gebiet Großliebental, Region Odessa, Rußland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Anna heiratete Wiest, Sebastian am 1 Aug 1857 in Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland. Sebastian (Sohn von Wiest, Johann Franz und Riedel, Eva Margaretha) wurde geboren am 26 Mrz 1807 in Erlenbach bei Kandel, Kreis Germersheim, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland; getauft am 30 Mrz 1807 in Erlenbach bei Kandel, Kreis Germersheim, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland; gestorben vor 1876 in Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

James-Sergent :
Born: 1822

Karen Abel:
UID: 988D65A4CB97439B9216677967D00B2B63ED
Born: Abt 1820/1821
NOTE
It is not absolutely certain that this is the Charlotta that married Johann Philipp Krauss and Johannes Roth. However, her ages in various records makes it seem likely. There is also the fact that Charlotta's mother, Margaretha Harr, died in Alexanderhilf (where Charlotta was living) in 1870. None of Margaretha's other children appear to have lived there.
It is certain that the widow Charlotta Krauss (nee Harr) married Johannes Roth of Alexanderhilf. Charlotta Roth died on 19 Aug 1877 in Alexanderhilf at age 52 years, 5 months. What is odd is that the record indicates that she was born in Petersburg.
YEAR OF BIRTH
In her father's passport document of January 1826, her age is given as 4 years. In the March 1858 Census for Worms her age is given as 38. These would suggest a birth in about 1820-1821. Her age at death suggests a birth in March of 1825. Since her first child was born in 1841, it seems likely that her age at death was incorrect.
Sources:
1. Title: Documents from Odessa - researched and provided by Serge Elizarov
2. Title: Odessa Library - Publication: www.odessa3.org

Charlotta heiratete Krauss, Johann Philipp geschätzt 1840. Johann wurde geboren um 1814 in ,,, Rußland; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Charlotta heiratete Roth, Johannes am 5 Sep 1862 in Großliebental, Gebiet Großliebental, Region Odessa, Rußland. Johannes wurde geboren am 15 Aug 1817; gestorben am 17 Feb 1882 in Alexanderhilf, Gebiet Großliebental, Region Odessa, Rußland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: C820C261E7524A6E8EE22208A44DA6B4E10E
DATE OF BIRTH
This date of birth for Katharina came from her death certificate (which had many errors on it). Her age on a Johannestal census taken on 1 Mar 1858 was given as 33. On the passenger list for her arrival in the US on 1 Sep 1874, her age was given as 50. These would both suggest a birth year of 1824.
DEATH CERTIFICATE
"Katrenia" Maas died in 1918 (no month and day given) in Fredonia, Logan County, ND, of old age. She was blind. She was a widow. She was born on 18 Jul 1823 and was age 94 years, 10 or 11 months and 20 days old at her death [which cannot be correct as it suggests a death after her burial date]. She was born in South Russia and her father was "Danil Harr"[this is also incorrect] and her mother was unknown. She was buried on 31 May 1918.
OBITUARY ABSTRACT
Katharina (Harr) Maas was born in Grossliebental, So. Russia, on 29 Jul 1823 and died on 29 May 1918 at age 94 years, 10 months and 29 days. In 1844 she marred Ludwig Maas and they had 9 children, 4 of which preceded her in death. The family came to SD in 1874. She lost her sight in 1902 and her husband died 2 years later. After that her daughter, Katharina Hellwig, took care of her. Survived by 2 sons, 3 daughters, 42 grandchildren, 100 great-grandchildren, and 9 great-great-grandchildren. Services were held in Fredonia and Berlin.
Sources:
1. Title: Death certificate - Author: State of North Dakota
2. Title: Documents from Odessa - researched and provided by Serge Elizarov
3. Title: Obituary - Page: for Katharina (Harr) Maas, Der Sendbote, 12 Jun 1918, p. 382
4. Title: Odessa Library - Publication: www.odessa3.org

Katharina heiratete Maas, Ludwig am 7 Nov 1844 in Johannestal, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland. Ludwig (Sohn von Maas, Michael und Nast, Katharina) wurde geboren am 9 Apr 1823 in Johannestal, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland; gestorben am 2 Mai 1903 in Scotland, Bon Homme County, South Dakota, USA; wurde beigesetzt am 4 Mai 1903 in Scotland, Bon Homme County, South Dakota, USA. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Karen Abel:
UID: C05CF9EABC5B4EE1BDC6F3BD84292089CE9B
Sources:
1. Title: Documents from Odessa - researched and provided by Serge Elizarov

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Karen Abel:
UID: F58D9E0A62084BE0A306C1CE086F86B1A56F
GIVEN NAME
His given name in his baptism record is Johann Georg. That name is also used on the baptism record for one of his children. Otherwise, he is found in records as just Johann.
NOTE
Johann Georg Harr and Katharina Schatz were 5th cousins. Their common ancestors were their 4th great-grandparents, Georg Klumpp and Anna Schuhmacher.
RUSSIAN DOCUMENT
File 1-85-107
CHANCERY OF GOVERNOR-GENERAL OF NOVORUSSIA AND BESSARABIA
"About some German villagers (former colonists) of Cherson and Taurida provinces wishing to move and resettle in America"
1872-1874
Pages 95-95back
MINISTRY OF INTERNAL AFFAIRS
8 February 1873, No 564, Odessa
From: Odessa Uyezd Police Officer
To: His Excellency Head of Chancery of Governor-General of Novorussia and Bessarabia"
Received: 17 March 1873, No 1283/366
Executing the order of Your Excellency, I have the honour to report that Gross-Liebental volost chairman Pfanzler on the 3rd instant gave free-tickets to below Gross-Liebental villagers-owners wishing to quit Russian citizenship for moving forever to North America, exactly: . . .
2) Johann, son of Johann HARR, with his wife Catharina and children Johann, Daniel, Gottlieb, Karolina, Katharina, Anna and Friederica; . . .
Odessa Uyezd Police Officer /signature/
Sources:
1. Title: Grossliebental, Liebental District Odessa, 1858 Census - Author: GRHS & AHSGR
2. Title: Lustdorf Odessa Church Registers - Publication: GRHS, 2002
3. Title: St. Petersburg Church Books, 1833-1885 - Evangelische Kirche, Konsistorium Petersburg -#1884077/1 p. 533
4. Title: Article by Johann Jacob Harr (born 1853) - #1884077/1 p. 533
5. Title: St. Petersburg Church Books, 1833-1885 - Evangelische Kirche, Konsistorium Petersburg -#1882651/3 p. 91

Johann heiratete Schatz, Katharina am 15 Okt 1850 in Freudental, Gebiet Großliebental, Region Odessa, Rußland. Katharina wurde geboren um 1829 in Neu-Freudental, Gebiet Großliebental, Region Odessa, Rußland; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Karen Abel:
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ASSUMED MARRIAGE
There is a marriage record in Rohrbach on 10 Oct 1854 for Heinrich Harr and Anna Friedrika Seiler. No other Friedrika Seiler/Sauter/Seiter's have been seen in records, other than with Daniel Harr. And there is no known Heinrich Harr in that time frame. So it is here assumed that the record should have read Daniel instead of Heinrich.
CENSUS
The 1858 Census for Grossliebental lists the "Widow Margaretha Harr" 66, along with sons: Johann 29, his wife Katharina (arrived from Neu Freudental) 28 and sons Johann 5 and Daniel 3; and Daniel 26, and his wife Friederika (arrived from Güldendorf) 21.
Sources:
1. Title: Grossliebental, Liebental District Odessa, 1858 Census - Author: GRHS & AHSGR
2. Title: St. Petersburg Church Books, 1833-1885 - Author: Evangelische Kirche, Konsistorium Petersburg (Rußland)

Walter Guthmiller:
UID: C3112768A4E38340BDB7B50CD63AAAD470F9
Death: ABT 1854 - ? (Kinder sind bis 1878 geboren)

Daniel heiratete Seiter, Aurora Friederika am 10 Okt 1854 in Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland. Aurora (Tochter von Seiter, Christian Heinrich und Hantke, Christina Margaretha) wurde geboren am 5 Mrz 1837 in Simferopol, Simferopol, Region Krim, Rußland; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Karen Abel:
UID: FE3E8BC3D1704180B727427E884F027679FB
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

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Karen Abel:
UID: 31950B9E3FFA4C2CA0412D4B7876762E0B49
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

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Karen Abel:
UID: 99EB165001C54927A3045260390ADE4CE65F
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)