Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 05E4557389864864ABFC9A5905215D901901
Sources:
1. Title: Jan Olson

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: DE2FC6BEBA5541BC9668C8C59132C4FBAA0E
Sources:
1. Title: Jan Olson

Jacob heiratete Haas, Mary am 15 Jul 1925 in Jamestown, Stutsman County, North Dakota, USA. Mary (Tochter von Haas, Jakob und Wöhl, Katharina) wurde geboren am 4 Mrz 1906 in Cleveland, Stutsman County, North Dakota, USA; gestorben am 30 Mai 1983 in Jamestown, Stutsman County, North Dakota, USA. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Karen Abel:
UID: FFB51691CA96431BB1D0B964590C80E17D82
Sources:
1. Title: Jan Olson

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www.pixel.cs.vt.edu/:
Born: 1895624/1 695 29

Karen Abel:
UID: 66FFAF4EDD0947CAAE7840EF6718168ED1F9
OBITUARY
Jamestown Sun, Jamestown, ND, 13 Apr 1963.
Funeral services for Jacob Haas of Cleveland, retired farmer, were held Thursday afternoon.. Mr. Haas died April 12 at Hi-Acres Manor here after having been in failing health for the past three months. .. Burial was made in the Seventh-day Adventist Church cemetery at Medina. Relatives from a distance attending the funeral included Mrs. Richard Bietz and Adolph Haas, Lodi, CA; Reuben Haas, Scappoose, OR; Mr. and Mrs. Peter Haas, Billings, MT; Mr. and Mrs. Wilbnert Haas, Havre, MT; Edwin Haas, Glendive, MT; Sam Tarbell, Valley City; Mr. and Mrs. Adam Haas, Mr. and Mrs.Theophil Haas, Ashley; Mr. and Mrs. Arthur Breitling, Mrs. and Mrs. Theo. Haas, Venturia; Mrs. Jacob Haas, Mandan; Mr. and Mrs. Adolph Haas, Bismarck; Elder and Mrs. Elmer Haas, Carrington; and many relatives and friends from Medina, Cleveland, and the surrounding communities.
Sources:
1. Title: Obituary
2. Title: Jan Olson

Jakob heiratete Wöhl, Katharina am 10 Dez 1901 in Jamestown, Stutsman County, North Dakota, USA. Katharina (Tochter von Wöhl, Peter und Harr, Louise) wurde geboren am 1 Mrz 1886 in ,,, Rußland; gestorben am 5 Aug 1965 in Moonlake, Barnes County, North Dakota, USA. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Karen Abel:
UID: 0C681993B15B418FB36C9F56EB1B1974A30A
OBITUARY
Jamestown Sun, Jamestown, ND, 6 Aug 1965.
Mrs. Katie Haas, 79, pioneer resident of the Cleveland community, died Thursday evening at the home of her son-in-law and daughter, Mr. and Mrs. Reuben Bietz, in Moonlake Township near Windsor. .. Burial will be in the Seventh-day Adventist cemetery in Medina. Born March 1, 1886, in Russia, Mrs. Haas was the daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Peter Woehl. She came to the United States at the age of three with her parents who located first in McIntosh County, ND. She attended school in that area before moving with her family to a farm north of Cleveland. Her marriage to Jacob Haas took place Dec. 10, 1901, in Jamestown. They homesteaded in Valley Springs Township where they resided until 1942 when they moved into Cleveland. In 1961, Mr. and Mrs. Haas left Cleveland to make their home with their daughters, Mrs. Reuben Bietz and Mrs. Jake Schroeder. Mr. Haas died April 12, 1963, and Mrs. Haas has been residing in recent months at the Bietz home. She was a member of the Cleveland Seventh-day Adventist Church. She is survived by nine children, Mrs. Richard Bietz (Marian), Lodi, CA; Mrs. Reuben Bietz (Esther), Windsor; Mrs. Jake Schroeder (Mary), Eldridge; Reuben Haas, Scappose, OR; Mrs. Earl Tarbell (Edith), Jamestown; Arthur Haas, Cleveland; Peter Haas, Billings, MT; Edwin Haas, Glendive, MT, and Wilbert Haas, Havre, MT; 43 grandchildren and 52 great-grandchildren; and one brother, Peter Woehl, Cleveland.
Sources:
1. Title: Obituary

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www.pixel.cs.vt.edu/:
Born: 1883188/2 352 7

Uwe Zimbelmann:
Karl Stumpp: S.695#198

Karen Abel:
UID: AF7C72E1773242AD8CD00A9B8904E3D75E60

Jakob heiratete Sattler, Barbara am 29 Jan 1874 in Klein-Neudorf, Gebiet Glückstal, Region Odessa, Rußland. Barbara wurde geboren geschätzt 1855 in ,,, Rußland; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Karen Abel:
UID: 90D70E75E5D94F248EF25A20485703F6ADA2

Notizen:

www.pixel.cs.vt.edu/:
Married: 1884120/1 700 4

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Karen Abel:
UID: CDE48C0B333E4CA3B8ED8A0EFA6991AC85D2
NOTE
Came to the US 25 Oct 1889 on the ship Lahn. Went first to McIntosh County, ND, and bought land in Blumenthal Township. Homesteaded in Spring Valley (later Valley Springs) in Stutsman County, ND. Moved to Cleveland, ND, in 1914.
SURNAME
While most of the other Wöhls changed the spelling to Woehl upon arriving in America, Peter used the spelling Wohl.
OBITUARY
Jamestown Sun, Jamestown, ND.
Peter Wohl, Sr. who for 51 years has farmed in the Cleveland vicinity, died at the home of his son and daughter-in-law, Mr. & Mrs. Peter Wohl, Jr. early this morning. Mr. Wohl was born in Rohrbach, South Russia, February 15, 1864 [should be April] and came to the United States many years ago. He was a life member of the Church of God. Surviving are his son Peter Wohl, Jr. and daughter Mrs. Jacob Haas both of Cleveland, 21 grandchildren, 66 great-grandchildren, and 5 great-great-grandchildren. Mrs. Wohl died June 1, 1944. .
Sources:
1. Title: Odessa Library - www.odessa3.org - Information taken from indexes on this web site and not personally verified.
2. Title: Jan Olson
3. Title: Odessa Library - Publication: www.odessa3.org

Peter heiratete Harr, Louise am 3 Mrz 1884 in Neu-Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland. Louise (Tochter von Harr, Daniel und Seiter, Aurora Friederika) wurde geboren am 16 Aug 1862 in Johannestal, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland; getauft am 9 Sep 1862 in Johannestal, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland; gestorben am 1 Jun 1944 in Cleveland, Stutsman County, North Dakota, USA. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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www.pixel.cs.vt.edu/:
Born: 1884095/3 534 46

Karen Abel:
UID: 67929951ED624156B2E3D3A264690A00AA1B
BIRTH: The Odessa3 index says that she was born 16 Aug 1862. The ND death index and her obituary say she was born 22 Aug 1862.
OBITUARY
Jamestown Sun, Jamestown, ND.
Mrs. Peter Wohl, Sr., pioneer mother of Valley Springs TWP, Stutsman county died at her home in Cleveland, ND, Thursday afternoon. Mrs. Wohl was born in South Russia, August 22, 1862 and was married there in 1884. Mr. & Mrs. Wohl came to McIntosh county where they resided for 10 years; and 44 years ago they came to Stutsman county and have lived here since. The couple observed their sixty-first [Note: should be 60th] wedding anniversary this spring. Survivors are her husband; a daughter, Mrs. Jacob Haas; and a son, Peter Wohl, Jr., Cleveland. ..
Sources:
1. Title: Odessa Library - www.odessa3.org - Information taken from indexes on this web site and not personally verified.
2. Title: Jan Olson
3. Title: Odessa Library - Publication: www.odessa3.org

Walter Guthmiller:
UID: 7E135BA95E004943AB8E9EC3490D0B940EDB

Notizen:

Uwe Zimbelmann:
Karl Stumpp: S.695#198

Georg heiratete Frey, Katharina. Katharina wurde geboren um 1828 in ,,, Rußland; gestorben nach 1857. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Uwe Zimbelmann:
Karl Stumpp: S.695#198

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Peter Woehl

Notizen:

Familysearch.org:
ID: KGM9-Y55

Karen Abel:
UID: CA316B4704DE43188AB0E4634F6C6470FA43
BIRTH AND DEATH DATES
These dates are taken from data collected by Ken Aisenbrey, shared by Arlene Woehl and Ron Vossler. This source states that the dates were found in the Meth Bible records. The same dates are found in Alt and Neu Danzig Families, as collected by Curt Renz.
1858 ROHRBACH CENSUS
Peter Woehl 34, Katharina (Hoffmann) 31, Katharina 12, Friedrich 10, Jakob 8, Elisabetha 6, Heinrich 4, Hanna 3, Margaretha 1/4; Peter's brother Michael - went to the next household.
Sources:
1. Title: Odessa Library - Publication: odessa3.org
2. Title: Rohrbach, So. Russia - 1858 Census - Author: GRHS

Peter heiratete Hofmann, Catharina Margaretha am 30 Nov 1843 in Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland. Catharina (Tochter von Hoffmann, Heinrich Michael und Böhler, Margaretha Maria) wurde geboren am 5 Mrz 1825 in Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland; gestorben am 22 Feb 1893 in Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Catharina Margaretha Hoffmann

Notizen:

Familysearch.org:
ID: 9KFH-D7S

Karen Abel:
UID: 499CA3895B4440C7A4AFE0E5D31D371F1514
BIRTH AND DEATH DATES
These dates are taken from information compiled by Ken Aisenbrey, shared by Arlene Woehl and Ron Vossler. This source states that the dates were found in the Meth Bible records. The same dates are found in Alt and Neu Danzig Families, as collected by Curt Renz.
Sources:
1. Title: Odessa Library - Publication: odessa3.org
2. Title: Rohrbach, So. Russia - 1858 Census - Author: GRHS

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 3705CE0455A242B490DEC169F2556F75BE4C
ASSUMED MARRIAGE
There is a marriage record in Rohrbach on 10 Oct 1854 for Heinrich Harr and Anna Friedrika Seiler. No other Friedrika Seiler/Sauter/Seiter's have been seen in records, other than with Daniel Harr. And there is no known Heinrich Harr in that time frame. So it is here assumed that the record should have read Daniel instead of Heinrich.
CENSUS
The 1858 Census for Grossliebental lists the "Widow Margaretha Harr" 66, along with sons: Johann 29, his wife Katharina (arrived from Neu Freudental) 28 and sons Johann 5 and Daniel 3; and Daniel 26, and his wife Friederika (arrived from Güldendorf) 21.
Sources:
1. Title: Grossliebental, Liebental District Odessa, 1858 Census - Author: GRHS & AHSGR
2. Title: St. Petersburg Church Books, 1833-1885 - Author: Evangelische Kirche, Konsistorium Petersburg (Rußland)

Walter Guthmiller:
UID: C3112768A4E38340BDB7B50CD63AAAD470F9
Death: ABT 1854 - ? (Kinder sind bis 1878 geboren)

Daniel heiratete Seiter, Aurora Friederika am 10 Okt 1854 in Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland. Aurora (Tochter von Seiter, Christian Heinrich und Hantke, Christina Margaretha) wurde geboren am 5 Mrz 1837 in Simferopol, Simferopol, Region Krim, Rußland; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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James-Sergent:
Tochter von Johannes R. Sailer und Anna Maria Justine Bette

Walter Guthmiller:
UID: 025D999672F901478A5E25D6CF89B185B2CF

Karen Abel:
UID: 696AA19700A64B01B14CB18EEC012D469933
MAIDEN NAME
On the birth records of her children Friedrika's name is given as: Sailer (1855, 1857, 1864, 1868), Seiter (1858, 1860, 1870, 1876), and Sauter (1862, 1878).
In the marriage record that is assumed to be for Daniel Harr and Friedrika, her name is given as Seiler.
In the death records of her children, Louise and Daniel, her name is listed as Sider.
No Friedrikas are found in any Sailer or Sauter families. An Aurora Friedricka Seiter was born 5 Mar 1837 in Simferopol, Crimea, to Heinrich Seiter and Christina Margaretha Hank/Hantke. This fits perfectly with the age of Friederika in the 1858 Grossliebental census. A Heinrich Seiter was originally found in Güldendorf with a wife and a daughter born in 1825. He disappears from there in 1830. He would seem to be the same Heinrich Seiter who then appears in Crimea.
In the 1858 Grossliebental census, Friederika was referred to as being from Güldendorf. Merv Weiss wrote: "It has been my experience that members of a family and one or two generations thereafter were referred to as colonists of whichever colony where they first owned land (which was of course communally owned). Thus a man was known as a Guldendorf colonist even after he had moved to another colony. Also it is most likely his sons were also called Guldendorf colonists, even if they were not living there."
Regarding the issue of movement between colonies in South Russia, Curt Renz wrote: "Something to remember concerning the 'movement' issue is: these people quite often tended to migrate from place to place so that it is not unusual to find children of one family being born in different villages (sometimes returning several times later to one place or another). Sometimes they moved a short distance and other times, a much longer distance, only to return one spot they'd lived in at an earlier time."
No other Friederika Sailer, Sauter or Seiter was found born in the appropriate time frame. Based upon all of these factors, it is assumed at this time that she was the Aurora Friederika Seiter born in Simferopol. There is currently no actual hard evidence to support this assumption.
Sources:
1. Title: Grossliebental, Liebental District Odessa, 1858 Census - Author: GRHS & AHSGR
2. Title: Odessa Library - Publication: www.odessa3.org
3. Title: St. Petersburg Church Books, 1833-1885 - Author: Evangelische Kirche, Konsistorium Petersburg (Rußland)

Notizen:

Uwe Zimbelmann:
Karl Stumpp: S.695#198

Friedrich heiratete Ehbass, Elisabetha. Elisabetha wurde geboren am 11 Jul 1795; gestorben am 24 Sep 1876 in Erlanbeiss,,, Rußland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Uwe Zimbelmann:
Karl Stumpp: S.695#198

www.pixel.cs.vt.edu/:
Born: errechnet
Death: 1884070/1 730 28 - 81y 2m 13d - nee Ehbass?

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Woehl

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Jessica Sanders:
Born: 1804 - Rohrbach, Russia

Familysearch.org:
ID: K4TR-8T8

Karen Abel:
UID: FEFC2D5BCBB14FE5A49318093B747B50046B
NOTE
In the Clay County Church records for Sutton, NE, the birth dates of Margarete and Elisabeth Woehl are given. Their parents names are listed as Michael Woehl and Katharina Zimbelmann.
BIRTH
According to the French Republican Calendar, Michael was born on 20 Ventose 5th year of the French Republic.
Sources:
1. Title: Sutton, NE - Clay County Church records - Publication: odessa3.org
2. Title: Oberseebach Civil Registration, 1793-1882 - Oberseebach (Bas-Rhin), Officier de l'etat civil - FHL Film #777209-3

Wilhelm heiratete Zimpelmann, Katharina Karolina geschätzt 1823 in Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland. Katharina (Tochter von Zimpelmann, Jakob Karl und Huthmacher, Catharina) wurde geboren am 29 Apr 1805 in Billigheim, Kreis Südliche Weinstraße, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland; getauft am 30 Apr 1805; gestorben am 11 Aug 1902 in Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland; wurde beigesetzt in Friedhof Rohrbach, Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Katharine, Catharina Zimbelmann

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Karl Stumpp:
Karl Stumpp: S.790#36

Pflaum:
born: 23 Apr 1805

Jessica Sanders:
Born: 1816 - Rohrbach,Beresan,Odessa,So Russia

Familysearch.org:
ID: GMGL-BJX

Lisa Montoya:
UID EF582D459D20487E84EE2A39974A1B919EC5
Born: 1808, Munchaussen, Weissenburg, Alsace, Germany

Karen Abel :
UID: 03BEA4313495484495B81237A9CCDC683A29
Born: 29 Apr 1805 in Billigheim, Bayern, Germany
Sources:
1. Title: Rohrbach, So. Russia -1858 Census - Author: GRHS
2. Title: Billigheim Church Books, 1686-1911 - Author: Evangelisch-Reformierte Kirche Billigheim (BA Bergzabern)

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Heinrich Hofmann

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Karl Stumpp:
Karl Stumpp: S.789#14

Familysearch.org:
ID: KL9L-47N

Michael L. Wiest:
Born: 1 Jul 1790, Bischofsheim, Baden-Württemberg

Lilia Herlez:
Born: 1 Jul 1790, Neckarbischofsheim, Rhein-Neckar-Kreis, Baden-Württemberg

Heinrich heiratete Böhler, Margaretha Maria geschätzt 1810. Margaretha (Tochter von Böhler, Heinrich Peter und Gärtner, Anna Barbara) wurde geboren am 10 Dez 1789 in Weinheim, Rhein-Neckar-Kreis, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben vor 1869 in Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Margaretha Mary Boehler

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Karl Stumpp:
Karl Stumpp: S.789#14

Familysearch.org:
ID: KGJV-B6B

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: B5F429E5236C4F768BD566062C2B9E592572
EMIGRATION TO RUSSIA
The Glatten family book register for the family of Johann David Harr and Anna Maria Gühring shows that their children Jacob Friedrich, Johann David, Johannes, Johann Matthaus and Anna Maria all emigrated to Russia. Passport data can be found for Friedrich and David in 1817. As the other three were not married at the time, it is possible that they traveled under the passport of one of their older married brothers. It is known that Johannes arrived in Russia in 1817. His date of birth corresponds very closely to that calculated from the ages in the documents below. While one of those documents gives his place of origin as Glatt (rather than Glatten), no record of a Johannes Harr from Glatt can be found. Based on other information, it is currently assumed that he was actually this Johannes from Glatten.
DOCUMENTS FROM RUSSIA
Fond #252-1-535 --About accepting the immigrant Johann Harr into the number of the colonists of Grossliebental.
*5 March 1826 - Württemberg immigrant Johann Harr, who arrived in 1817 through Ismail quarantine and did not come in 1822 to be registered for the new revision lists, wishes now to be accepted into the number of the colonists of the Colony Grossliebental, about whose acceptance the local colonists declared their agreement.. The attachments under A and B, the name list about his family, I submit all of this to the Office for their approval..
*15 March 1826 - ..Johann Harr..who wishes to be accepted into the number of the colonists of the Colony Grossliebental, about whose acceptance the local community declared their agreement and that decision was submitted to the Office for approval together with the name list of Harr's family and the supervisor submits this Grossliebental community's aggreement to accept immigrant Harr and his family of 1 male and 3 female members.. the immigrant Johann Harr as well as his wife Margaretha actually arrived in 1817 to Russia through the Ismail quarantine, being then single, both with the standard passport and each of them had to pay 50 rubles of state quarantine debt.
*Attachment A, in German, dated 24 November 1825 - We, who are signing in the name of the community of the Grossliebental colonists, hereby certify that we shall accept and take into our midst the colonist Johann Harr, who arrived here, unmarried, in the year 1817 by way of Ismail, but who, however, married Margaretha Koch in the same year, together with his entire family, which consists of one male and 4 female souls. - Followed by 21 signatures.
*Attachment B, also in German, dated 28 January 1826 - a form with the name list for the family of colonist Johann Harr:
Arrived in 1817 by way of Ismail quarantine.
Johann Harr 35, wife Margaretha 32, daughters Anna 6, Charlotta 4, Cathrina 2.
Place of birth: "von Glatt, Oberamt Sulz in Württemberg"
Occupation: Schäfer
Residence: Grossliebental
*14 May 1826 - To Kherson financial office-The Office sends 2 copies of revision lists about newly accepted colonist Johann Harr and asks to accept Harr into the number of the colonists of Grossliebental, Tiraspol district, from 1827 and with benefits from 1817.
Fond #252-1-729 --Case of issuing emergency passports in Liebental district. Began in January 1830, completed 24 May 1830.
Grossliebental colonist Johann Harr (shepherd) wants to get a one-year passport to live with his family in Cherson, Tauria and Ekaterinoslav provinces earning his profession. Since this colonist doesn't have his farmstead and has guarantors for the future, the office asks for giving him a one-year passport. Legal duty of 5 silver rubles and 10 rubles for charitable institutions are enclosed.
Passport - By decree of his Majesty, Tsar and Emperor Nicholas Pavlovich, Ruler of all Russia.. Presenter of this, colonist of Odessa district, Colony Grossliebental, Johann Harr with family that consists of 2 males and 5 females, who has a state debt, discharged into Odessa district for personal needs from below written date for one year, that is until 19 October 1829. After this date he must come back; otherwise he will be subject to the law. Issued from Odessa Department of Foreign Settlers with attachment of a seal on 19 October 1828 in the State Colony of Tiraspol district.
Description:
Age: 39 - Height: small - Hair: blond - Eyebrows: blond - Eyes: blue - Nose: ordinary - Mouth: same - Chin: small
Face: pock-marked
Fond #252-1-878 (translated by Serge Yelizarov) -- About giving passports to colonists of Liebental district
To: Odessa Bureau of Foreign Settlers
Received: June 10, 1831
From: Liebental District Office
We ask to give/extend a one-year passport to Johann Harr with his family, who arrived through Ismail in 1817 and is registered in Gross-Liebental, to be a sheep-farmer at the estate of general Koble in Odessa uyezd. There are no obstacles from the community side, since all 1831 taxes have been paid and therefore his passport where his distinctive marks are pointed is true. - June 6, 1831
For midclass citizens and peasants; for the term less than one year; price 5 Rubles
By Ukaz of his Majesty, Emperor Nicolay Pavlovich
The bearer of this, colonist of Gross-Liebental Johann Harr with his wife Margaretha 38 years old, son Johann and daughters Anna, Lotta, Catharina and Barbara, with the state debt upon him, is allowed to go to various towns and villages of Cherson, Ekaterinoslav and Taurida provinces for personal needs, beginning from the date pointed below and for the term of one year, i.e. till May 8th of 1831 with getting back by then, to be prosecuted by the law otherwise. Given and sealed by Odessa Bureau of Foreign Settlers on May 8, 1830 in Odessa.
Distinctive Marks:
Age - 40 - Stature - low - Hair/brows - fair - Eyes - blue - Nose/mouth - regular - Chin - small - Face - pitted
Sources:
1. Title: Documents from Odessa - researched and provided by Serge Elizarov
2. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)
3. Title: Article by Johann Jacob Harr (born 1853)
4. Title: Odessa St. Paul Evangelical Lutheran Church Family Book--630-1-355 - Publication: GRHS, 2002

Johannes heiratete Koch, Margaretha in 1817 in ,, Region Odessa, Rußland. Margaretha (Tochter von Koch, Adam Friedrich und Haag, Anna Catharina) wurde geboren am 6 Jan 1792 in Schwaikheim, Rems-Murr-Kreis, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; getauft am 7 Jan 1792 in Schwaikheim, Rems-Murr-Kreis, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 1 Mrz 1870 in Alexanderhilf, Gebiet Großliebental, Region Odessa, Rußland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Karen Abel:
UID: 1CE1107BE9E144399734BFFB3649A1DB4FA3
THEORY
At this time, it can only be theorized that the Margaretha Koch who married Johannes Harr in Russia is the same as the Margaretha Koch born in Schwaikheim. However, given the facts below, it seems a logical conclusion, at least until other facts become known.
FACTS KNOWN ABOUT MARGARETHA KOCH
Age: In the 1858 Census for Grossliebental (taken on 1 Jan), her age is given as 66 (suggesting a birth in 1791). Her age at death is given as 77 years, 3 months, 4 days (suggesting a birth date about 27 Nov 1792).
Arrival in Russia: From an 1826 document requesting acceptance into the colony of Grossliebental, Margaretha Koch and Johannes Harr, both single, arrived through Ismail quarantine in 1817 and were married later that year [probably in Odessa].
Stumpp: Adam Friedrich Koch and Gottlieb Koch both left for/arrived in Russia in 1817 from Schwaikheim.
From Schwaikheim Family Register: Her brother Johann Gottlieb Koch emigrated with his family to Caucasus on 11 Jun 1817. Her sister Katharina Barbara married Joh. Gutenberger and emigrated in 1817 (destination not given). Margaretha emigrated with permission (ist mit Erlaubniß ausgewandert) (date and destination not given).
Margaretha Koch was born in Schwaikheim on 6 Jan 1793, only 1 month and 10 days different from the birth date suggested by age at death of the Margaretha (Koch) Harr who died in Alexanderhilf.
No passport information was found for Johannes Harr. However, his two older brothers, Jacob Friedrich and Johann David Harr, obtained passports in Freudenstadt on 12 Jun 1817. This was only one day later than Johann Gottlieb Koch in Waiblingen--so it seems quite possible that they would have traveled together on the journey to Russia.
Of further interest is the fact that the oldest daughter of Johannes and Margaretha (Koch) Harr married Johannes Klink/Klenk. It appears that the Klenk family was also from Schwaikheim.
CENSUS
The 1858 Census for Grossliebental lists the "Widow Margaretha Harr" 66, along with sons: Johann 29, his wife Katharina (arrived from Neu Freudental) 28 and sons Johann 5 and Daniel 3; and Daniel 26, and his wife Friederika (arrived from Güldendorf) 21.
Sources:
1. Title: Grossliebental, Liebental District Odessa, 1858 Census - Author: GRHS & AHSGR
2. Title: St. Petersburg Church Books, 1833-1885-Evangelische Kirche, Konsistorium Petersburg-#1884111/2 p. 207
3. Title: Schwaikheim Church Books, 1561-1915 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Schwaikheim (OA Waiblingen)
4. Title: Odessa St. Paul Evangelical Lutheran Church Family Book--630-1-355 - Publication: GRHS, 2002

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Karen Abel:
UID: 520B352FB4524B28A83950A5DB44CA312A3F
NOTE
According to Curt Renz, there was a Christian Heinrich Seiter, b. 22 Jan 1799 in Heimsheim (OA Leonberg), Württemberg, who was an early Güldendorf settler. He left there in 1820 for Nikopal and appears on the 1860 Absentee List for Güldendorf. He had a daughter born in 1825.
Other Seiters there were Karl Heinrich Seiter, b. 13 Jun 1811, and Christoph Heinrich Seiter, b. 6 Jul 1813, both in Heimsheim. They were the sons of Johann Heinrich Seiter, b. 9 Jun 1769, and Johanna Friederika Grögenthaler, b. 23 Aug 1773.
From Güldendorf families, there is a Heinrika Seiter, b. 1798, who married Johannes Roller, b. 1788
Sources:
1. Title: St. Petersburg Church Books, 1833-1885 - Evangelische Kirche, Konsistorium Petersburg (Rußland)
2. Title: Heimsheim Church Books, 1640-1934 - Evangelische Kirche Heimsheim (OA Leonberg)

Christian heiratete Hantke, Christina Margaretha. Christina (Tochter von Hantke, Jacob Friedrich und Stäbler, Margaretha) wurde geboren am 12 Nov 1802 in Musberg, Kreis Esslingen, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 8 Mrz 1841 in Simferopol, Simferopol, Region Krim, Rußland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: C5B2A562DB0B477BA184F1B8F129AC02BC0F
DEATH: Seiter, Christina Margarethe geb. Hantke, des Heinrich Seiter, burger und Tischlers Ehefrau. At age 38 years. Born in Muhsberg, Württemberg.
Sources:
1. Title: St. Petersburg Church Books, 1833-1885 - Author: Evangelische Kirche, Konsistorium Petersburg (Rußland)
2. Title: Musberg Church Books, 1563-1917 - Evangelische Kirche Musberg (OA Stuttgart) (Musberg, Württemberg)

Notizen:

Walter Guthmiller:
UID: AE7816509F189B438D3C992801AB29840456

Jacob heiratete Leyenberger, Eva Eisabetha vor 1793. Eva wurde geboren in 1764 in Birlenbach, Bas-Rhin, Elsaß, Frankreich; und gestorben in ,,, Rußland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Walter Guthmiller:
UID: E90BA6D5CC6634498847F99738A4965B4AF2

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Michael Wohl

Notizen:

Familysearch.org:
ID: M5GQ-HBQ

Karen Abel:
UID: B298FD7E98734B6DBE4883E855DD7AE68B5F
MARRIAGE
On the eighth day of Brachmonat (June) in 1793. Michael Wöhl, 25 years old, Akkermann (farmer) in Oberseebach, single son of Theobald Wehl, Akkermann, and Barbara Schumacher his wife. Margaretha Bekker, 25 years old, daughter of the deceased Martin Bekker and his surviving widow Anna Maria Faath. Witnesses were Theobald Wöhl (father), Jakob Jakobi, Michael Faath (uncle, 50 years old), Theobald Anthes, Martin Anthes.
DEATH: At age 73, born in Oberseebach
Sources:
1. Title: Oberseebach Church Books, 1656-1793 - Author: Evangelisch-Reformierte Kirche Oberseebach (Kr. Weißenburg)
2. Title: St. Petersburg Church Books, 1833-1885 - Author: Evangelische Kirche, Konsistorium Petersburg (Rußland)
3. Title: Oberseebach Civil Registration, 1793-1882 - Oberseebach (Bas-Rhin), Officier de l'etat civil - # 777212

Michael heiratete Becker, Margaretha am 8 Jun 1793 in Oberseebach, Bas-Rhin, Elsaß, Frankreich. Margaretha (Tochter von Becker, Johann Martin und Faath, Anna Maria) wurde geboren am 23 Sep 1768 in Oberseebach, Bas-Rhin, Elsaß, Frankreich; gestorben am 23 Dez 1837 in Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Marguerite Becker

Notizen:

Familysearch.org:
ID: 9V7W-LJH

Karen Abel:
UID: 12638AEB2A16406EBA46BA41CAB2E5669A79
DEATH: At age 69, born in Oberseebach
Sources:
1. Title: Oberseebach Church Books, 1656-1793 - Author: Evangelisch-Reformierte Kirche Oberseebach (Kr. Weißenburg)
2. Title: St. Petersburg Church Books, 1833-1885 - Author: Evangelische Kirche, Konsistorium Petersburg (Rußland)
3. Title: Oberseebach Civil Registration, 1793-1882 - Author: Oberseebach (Bas-Rhin), Officier de l'etat civil - # 777212

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Jacob Karl Zimbelmann

Notizen:

Karl Stumpp:
Karl Stumpp: S.790#36

Familysearch.org:
ID: 27NB-S2R

Harald Duwensee:
Born: 19 Jun 1766 - Bad Bergzabern, Südliche Weinstrasse

Pflaum:
pflaum-family.org/index.html
Born: 19 Jun 1786

Lucy Simpson:
Der Name Karl aus Münchhausen ist ein Fehler von Stumpp auf S. 790. Alle anderen Daten auf S. 790. 790 passt perfekt für Jacob

Günther W. Bourquin:
Quelle:
KB Billigheim/Appenhofen

Lisa Montoya:
UID 08E140ADA4DD4FEABA24469E030C3C0DAAB2
Ehe mit Maria Ulmer

Arlene Kruse:
Von diesem Zeitpunkt an verwenden wir das „b“, da die von LaVern Huber am 14. Mai 1991 erhaltene Geburtsurkunde es als Zimbelmann auswies. Wir sind uns bewusst, dass „b“ und „p“ in Übersetzungen austauschbar sind.
Uwe Zimbelman schickte Anna Huwa eine Ahnentafel und fügt als Peters Vater Jacob geb. hinzu. 25. April 1766 und sein Vater als Jacob, geboren um 1726.
Stumps „Die Auswanderung von Deutschland nach Russland in den Jahren 1763 bis 1862“, gedruckt in Deutschland von der AHSGR, stammten Peter Zimbelman 17 und seine Frau Anna 16 aus Münchhausen/Weißenburg-Elsass, aufgeführt in der Rohrbach-Volkszählung von 1816, Nr. 3 S. 788. Rohrbach wurde 1809 gegründet, als sie dort ankamen und ursprüngliche Kolonisten waren.
Quelle: (Erhalten von Lucille Simpson von Erwin Ulmer) LDS Library-Film Nr. 0247589 (1776) S. 53 (1771) S. 72; #0193784 (1793 S.6 (1797-1798) S.2 (1797) S.1 (1798-1799) S.8 (1800) S.18 (1801) S.25 (1803) S.35 (1805) S.44 (1806) S.1808) S.58.
NAME: Die Tatsache, dass im offiziellen Passantrag Jakob-Karl Zimbelmann aufgeführt ist, bestärkt die Annahme, dass es nur einen Zimbelman gab, der der ursprüngliche Kolonist war. Es scheint, dass er in offiziellen Dokumenten möglicherweise Jakob genannt hat und im Alltag möglicherweise als Karl bekannt war.

Jakob heiratete Huthmacher, Catharina vor 1795. Catharina (Tochter von Huthmacher, Johann Adam und Delique, Anna Margaretha) wurde geboren am 24 Sep 1771 in Billigheim, Kreis Südliche Weinstraße, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland; getauft am 25 Sep 1771 in Billigheim, Kreis Südliche Weinstraße, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland; gestorben in 1809 in ,,, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Katharina

Notizen:

Familysearch.org:
ID: 27NB-S2T

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Gottfrid Hofmann

Notizen:

Familysearch.org:
ID: L7PS-FTX

Gottfried heiratete Muehlisch, Magdalena. Magdalena wurde geboren um 1761 in Walterdorf,, Schlesien, Deutschland; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Christiana Muehlisch

Notizen:

Karl Stumpp:
Karl Stumpp: S.789#14

Familysearch.org:
ID: L7PS-DNP

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Henrich Peter Boehler

Notizen:

Lilia Herlez:
Born: 1766, Elsaß

Familysearch.org:
ID: GSWT-T5Z
Born: Rhein, Prussia, Germany

Heinrich heiratete Gärtner, Anna Barbara um 1786 in Pfullingen, Kreis Reutlingen, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Anna (Tochter von Gärtner, Joseph und Schulz, Maria Eva) wurde geboren in 1762 in ,,, Deutschland; gestorben am 16 Feb 1841 in Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Anna Barbara Holzworth

Notizen:

Familysearch.org:
ID: GSWT-F7Y

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: D0C03A726A034BBC9FB44C1A2D1FC6F16C95
Born: 16 Mar 1749/50
Sources:
1. Title: Ralph Wiseman
2. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt) - #1884493 -3

Johann heiratete Göhring, Anna Maria am 15 Jun 1773 in Glatten, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Anna (Tochter von Göhring, Andreas und Zahn, Anna) wurde geboren am 20 Aug 1754 in Grömbach, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 8 Jun 1819 in Grömbach, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: AF856B40E6C041068DCD5E1B31B3B26DA209
Sources:
1. Title: Ralph Wiseman
2. Title: Grömbach Church Books, 1658-1984 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Grömbach (OA Freudenstadt)
3. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Adam heiratete Haag, Anna Catharina geschätzt 1792. Anna (Tochter von Haag, Johann Adam und Schwartz, Anna Barbara) wurde geboren am 8 Nov 1760 in Bittenfeld, Rems-Murr-Kreis, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 30 Aug 1809 in Schwaikheim, Rems-Murr-Kreis, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 0DC05BBC25B34CAAB2A8F2E9C69CD98EB082
OCCUPATION IN HEIMSHEIM
Kiefermeister (master cooper).
IMMIGRATION
From Curt Renz:
Left from Plieningen (OA Stuttgart), Württ. in 1817
Russian passport via Stuttgart
Stach's "Die deutschen Kolonien in Sudrussland" p. 166
Stumpp's "The Emigration from Germany to Russia in the years 1763 to 1862" p. 599 [Note that this says "Christian Seytel" 1813.]
From Ostwanderung der Wuerttemberger, Tables p. 132-204 (www.Odessa3.org):
Heinrich Seitter of Heimsheim (OA Leonberg) applied for his passport on 16 May 1817 and it was approved 26 May 1817
Sources:
1. Title: Heimsheim Church Books, 1640-1934 - Evangelische Kirche Heimsheim (OA Leonberg)

Johann heiratete Grözenthaler, Johanna Friederice am 26 Feb 1797 in , Kreis Heinsberg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Johanna (Tochter von Grözenthaler, Ezechiel Christian und Zahn, Maria Barbara) wurde geboren am 23 Aug 1773 in , Kreis Heinsberg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 6EA45FC969FC4555AC93872EB2916C522E6C
Sources:
1. Title: Heimsheim Church Books, 1640-1934 - Evangelische Kirche Heimsheim (OA Leonberg)
2. Title: Wildberg Church Books, 1558-1968 - Evangelische Kirche Wildberg (OA Nagold) - FHL Film #1201966

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: FC0E85F9870344D5B82F522CED6A95930F97
Sources:
1. Title: Musberg Church Books, 1563-1917 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Musberg (OA Stuttgart) (Musberg, Württemberg)

Jacob heiratete Stäbler, Margaretha. Margaretha wurde geboren geschätzt 1775; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 276D3C4B95C147E99FDD5E232DC512C062F5
Sources:
1. Title: Musberg Church Books, 1563-1917 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Musberg (OA Stuttgart) (Musberg, Württemberg)

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Jean Thibault Woehl

Notizen:

Familysearch.org:
ID: G92D-JB8

Karen Abel:
UID: DD9926744304456E84253E23112C21E557D4
FIRST MARRIAGE
Theobald Wöhl, son of Adam Wöhl and Anna Maria Ulrich, married Barbara, daughter of Caspar Lortz and Anna Maria Ruf (?).
SECOND MARRIAGE
No record was found for Theobald's marriage to Barbara Schumacher (her name was found in their son Michael's marriage record). In fact, there were no other Schumachers found in Oberseebach. Therefore, it is most likely that they were married in a different village.
DEATH
On the 21st Pluviose in the 9th year of the French Republic. At age 68 years. Witness: Michael Wehl, son of the deceased
Sources:
1. Title: Oberseebach Civil Registration, 1793-1882 - Author: Oberseebach (Bas-Rhin), Officier de l'etat civil
2. Title: Oberseebach Church Books, 1656-1793 - Author: Evangelisch-Reformierte Kirche Oberseebach (Kr. Weißenburg)

Johann heiratete Schumacher, Barbara um 1765. Barbara wurde geboren um 1742 in Oberseebach, Bas-Rhin, Elsaß, Frankreich; gestorben am 22 Jan 1800 in Oberseebach, Bas-Rhin, Elsaß, Frankreich. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Randy R. Woehl:
Born: (Oberseebach, Elsa-Lotringen, Germany), Dorfen, Bayern, Deutschland

Familysearch.org:
ID: L85W-T4B

Karen Abel:
UID: 20EE8641765D442595043CED17D68866AE30
DEATH
On the 2nd Pluviose in the 8th year of the French Republic. Barbara, wife of Theobald Wehl, "der Alt Ackermann," at age 57 years. Witness, Michael Wehl, Ackermann, age 36 years
Sources:
1. Title: Oberseebach Church Books, 1656-1793 - Author: Evangelisch-Reformierte Kirche Oberseebach (Kr. Weißenburg)
2. Title: Oberseebach Civil Registration, 1793-1882 - Author: Oberseebach (Bas-Rhin), Officier de l'etat civil

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Jean Martin Becker

Notizen:

Randy R. Woehl:
Born: Dorfen, Bayern, Deutschland
Death: Dorfen, Bayern, Bundesrepublik Deutschland

Familysearch.org:
ID: KNN9-RH3
Born: 2 Aug 1734, Oberseebach, Bas Rhin, France

Johann heiratete Faath, Anna Maria am 9 Okt 1764. Anna (Tochter von Faath, Johann Balthasar und Weiss, Anna Maria) wurde geboren in Feb 1734 in ,,, Deutschland; gestorben am 4 Dez 1798 in Dorfen, Ostalbkreis, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Johan Jakob Zimbelmann

Notizen:

Lucy Simpson:
Born: 14 Jul 1736

Henri Schweikert:
Born: Bornheim, Südliche Weinstrasse, Rheinland-Pfalz

Familysearch.org:
ID: K1NJ-YB1
Born: Billigheim, Pfalz, Germany

KB Mühlhofen, reformiert:
Paten: Johann Jacob led. des Johann Jacob Brück des Terichts hier Sohn u. Anna Elisabetha led. weyl. Johann Casimir Permanns hier Tochter

Arlene Kruse:
Johann Jacob Z and Anna Maria Tropf had 15 children, 7 died in infancy. This left sons Georg Peter, Johann Conrad, Jacob Karl, and Johann Peter; daughters Catharina, Maria Elisabetha, Maria Magdalena, Eva Catharina, and Anna Maria.
Although some records are listed as Zimpelmann, we have standardized it as Zimbelmann with his children on since the birth certificate for his son Jacob-Karl had it with a "b" when obtained by LaVern Huber.

Johann heiratete Tropf, Anna Maria am 26 Feb 1754 in Billigheim, Kreis Südliche Weinstraße, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland. Anna (Tochter von Tropf, Benedict und Hoffmann, Maria Magdalena) wurde geboren am 19 Nov 1733 in Billigheim, Kreis Südliche Weinstraße, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland; getauft am 19 Nov 1733 in Billigheim, Kreis Südliche Weinstraße, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland; gestorben am 16 Jun 1771 in Billigheim, Kreis Südliche Weinstraße, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Anna Maria Tropfen, Tropfin

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 66DA91CBFBA24387BC019A0F2874481360E7

Familysearch.org:
ID: K1NJ-BMH

Notizen:

Familysearch.org:
ID: LZVV-ZG8

Harold Pastian:
trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=3a79f4c8-0af7-4428-9ed5-a4856821f45a&tid=13407137&pid=-55639460
Born: 1768?

Karen Abel:
UID: B5FA7FDE968B4EDE9DBE6F2BE890F718D5EA
Source:
1. Title: Billigheim Church Books, 1686-1911 - Author: Evangelisch-Reformierte Kirche Billigheim (BA Bergzabern)

Johann heiratete Delique, Anna Margaretha am 28 Jan 1770 in Billigheim, Kreis Südliche Weinstraße, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland. Anna (Tochter von Delique, Philipp Deluc und Jutzi, Maria Barbara) wurde geboren am 11 Okt 1742 in Billigheim, Kreis Südliche Weinstraße, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland; gestorben am 13 Jan 1800 in Billigheim, Kreis Südliche Weinstraße, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Harold Pastian:
Born: 1772 ?

Familysearch.org:
ID: LZVV-ZGD

Karen Abel:
UID: 9BA1F446DD824B1B9D2C4C5CDDEBBDE6171D
Death: Margaretha Huthmacher, at age 57 years.
It was not given in her marriage record, but in the births of her children it is seen spelled: Delick, deLuc, Deluc, and Delique
Sources:
1. Title: Billigheim Church Books, 1686-1911 - Author: Evangelisch-Reformierte Kirche Billigheim (BA Bergzabern)

Notizen:

Familysearch.org:
ID: L7PS-KV8

Gottfried heiratete Lehmann, Rosine in 1743. Rosine wurde geboren um 1722 in Waltersdorf, Kreis Dahme-Spreewald, Brandenburg, Deutschland; gestorben am 15 Feb 1752. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Familysearch.org:
ID: L7PS-K33

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Johann Jacob Boehler

Notizen:

Familysearch.org:
ID: MXCK-Q3Q

Johann heiratete Schippert, Anna Sophia am 14 Jul 1761 in Simmertal, Kreis Bad Kreuznach, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland. Anna wurde geboren geschätzt 1740; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Familysearch.org:
ID: MXCK-Q3F

Joseph heiratete Schulz, Maria Eva geschätzt 1759. Maria wurde geboren geschätzt 1733; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: EA7187FE5EF1421B97734C36065E534918A5
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)
2. Title: Alpirsbach Church Books, 1596-1903 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Alpirsbach (OA Oberndorf) - #1884483

Christian heiratete Schray, Catharina Margaretha am 11 Aug 1733 in Alpirsbach, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Catharina (Tochter von Schray, Simon Jr. und Lieb, Anna Margaretha) wurde geboren am 19 Dez 1715 in Alpirsbach, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 9 Dez 1793 in Glatten, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: ADE99C5D5154430EB76FDE82F7F4EABA9A01
RESEARCH
A note was added to the baptism record for Catharina Margaretha stating that she married Christian Friedrich Harr on 11 Aug 1733 and died on 10 Dec 1793
Sources:
1. Title: Alpirsbach Church Books, 1596-1903 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Alpirsbach (OA Oberndorf) - #1884483 -3
2. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 82204F3CF72F497BA021C766887F82C04E14
Sources:
1. Title: Ralph Wiseman
2. Title: Aistaig Church Books, 1648-1883 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Aistaid (OA Sulz) - Page: FHL Film #1732266/7
3. Title: Grömbach Church Books, 1658-1984 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Grömbach (OA Freudenstadt)

Andreas heiratete Zahn, Anna am 16 Aug 1747 in Grömbach, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Anna (Tochter von Zahn, Hans Jocob und Klump, Anna) wurde geboren am 12 Nov 1720 in Grömbach, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 21 Feb 1774 in Grömbach, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: E02F75E7CD5E4F5080EA0DE0CA0DE40950A2
Sources:
1. Title: Ralph Wiseman
2. Title: Family Search Web Site
3. Title: Grömbach Church Books, 1658-1984 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Grömbach (OA Freudenstadt)

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Johann Adam Haagen

Johann heiratete Schwartz, Anna Barbara am 4 Nov 1738 in Bittenfeld, Rems-Murr-Kreis, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Anna (Tochter von Schwartz, Johann Jacob und Nefzer, Anna Elisabetha) wurde geboren um 1714 in Bittenfeld, Rems-Murr-Kreis, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; getauft am 15 Jun 1714 in Bittenfeld, Rems-Murr-Kreis, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 1 Aug 1784 in Bittenfeld, Rems-Murr-Kreis, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 570EF9C78FF14DD6ABBA5611C8D6663FD706
SURNAME
Also spelled Krezenthaler, Krözenthaler.
Searches for this family have not found any other families with this name. It is not known where Ezechiel Christian was from.
OCCUPATION
Chirurgus (surgeon), Gerichtsverwandter (lay member of the court), Heiligenpfleger (church building and grounds superintendent), Gemeindeburgermeister (community mayor), Ober-Zoller.
MARRIAGES
Given his age, it is possible that he was married before the first record found in 1755 - especially since this record does not give his father's name or place of residence.
(1) Ezechiel Christian Krezenthaler, Chirurgus, and Maria Catharina, daughter of Wolfgang Jacob Mornhinweg. [I think this record should say that she was the widow of Wolfgang Jacob Mornhinweg.]
(2)Ezechiel Christian Krözenthaler, surgeon and Oberzoller (Zöller + customs official) in Wildberg, and Maria Barbara, daughter of Johann Friedrich Zahn, Reisiger (rider) and Forstknechts (forest hand?).
DEATH
Herr Ezechiel Christian Krezenthaler, Chirurgus and Heiligenpfleger, died of Auszehrung (consumption/tuberculosis) at age 57 years, 2 months, 16 days.
Sources:
1. Title: Heimsheim Church Books, 1640-1934 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Heimsheim (OA Leonberg)
2. Title: Wildberg Church Books, 1558-1968 - Wildberg Church Books, 1558-1968 (Evangelische Kirche Wildberg, BW)
3. Title: Oberjettingen Church Books, 1558-1903 - Evangelische Kirche Oberjettingen (OA Herrenberg)

Ezechiel heiratete Zahn, Maria Barbara am 9 Mai 1755 in Wildberg, Kreis Calw, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Maria (Tochter von Zahn, Johann Friedrich und Baitinger, Anna Catharina) wurde geboren am 25 Nov 1735 in Oberjettingen, Kreis Böblingen, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 13 Jul 1787 in Wildberg, Kreis Calw, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: F4CC7F75FBD7461F83C312B31209A3E89CD4
DEATH: Frau Maria Barbara, wife of the late Ezechiel Christian Krezenthaler, Chirurgi and Gerichtsverwandter (lay member of the court), died of Auszehrung (consumption/tuberculosis) at age 51 years, 8 months, less 12 days.
Sources:
1. Title: Heimsheim Church Books, 1640-1934 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Heimsheim (OA Leonberg)
2. Title: Oberjettingen Church Books, 1558-1903 - Evangelische Kirche Oberjettingen (OA Herrenberg)
3. Title: Wildberg Church Books, 1558-1968 - Wildberg Church Books, 1558-1968 (Evangelische Kirche Wildberg, BW)
4. Title: Ortssippenbuch Oberjettingen mit Sindlingen, Kreis Böblingen, Württemberg, 1488-1989 - Ernst Christian Haag
5. Title: Oberjettingen Church Books, 1558-1903 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Oberjettingen (OA Herrenberg)