Seiter, Aurora Friederika

1837 - Datum unbekannt

• Name	Seiter, Aurora Friederika
  Geburt	5 Mrz 1837	Simferopol, Simferopol, Region Krim, Rußland   [1, 2, 3]
  Geschlecht	weiblich
  Tod	Datum unbekannt
  Personen-Kennung	I18350	Zimbelmann
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  Vater	Seiter, Christian Heinrich,   geb. 22 Jan 1799, , Kreis Heinsberg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland gest. Datum unbekannt
  Mutter	Hantke, Christina Margaretha,   geb. 12 Nov 1802, Musberg, Kreis Esslingen, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland gest. 8 Mrz 1841, Simferopol, Simferopol, Region Krim, Rußland (Alter 38 Jahre)
  Familien-Kennung	F27543	Familienblatt  |  Familientafel

  
  

  Familie	Harr, Daniel,   geb. 1831, ,,, Rußland gest. 1878 (Alter 47 Jahre)
  Eheschließung	10 Okt 1854	Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland   [2]
  Kinder	1. Harr, Marie,   geb. 13 Mrz 1855, Johannestal, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland gest. Datum unbekannt   2. Harr, Johann,   geb. 5 Mrz 1857, Johannestal, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland gest. 8 Aug 1857, Johannestal, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland (Alter 0 Jahre) + 3. Harr, Christina,   geb. 13 Aug 1858, Johannestal, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland gest. 20 Jun 1938, Glasgow, Valley County, Montana, USA (Alter 79 Jahre) + 4. Harr, Daniel,   geb. 26 Jul 1860, Johannestal, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland gest. 23 Feb 1946, Cleveland, Stutsman County, North Dakota, USA (Alter 85 Jahre) + 5. Harr, Louise,   geb. 16 Aug 1862, Johannestal, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland gest. 1 Jun 1944, Cleveland, Stutsman County, North Dakota, USA (Alter 81 Jahre) + 6. Harr, Karl,   geb. 14 Dez 1864, Johannestal, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland gest. 4 Jan 1924, , McHenry County, North Dakota, USA (Alter 59 Jahre)   7. Harr, Elisabeth,   geb. um Aug 1866, Johannestal, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland gest. 17 Feb 1868, Johannestal, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland (Alter 1 Jahr)   8. Harr, Heinrich Ludwig,   geb. 21 Nov 1868, Johannestal, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland gest. Datum unbekannt + 9. Harr, Christian,   geb. 1870   gest. Datum unbekannt   10. Harr, Friederika,   geb. 26 Jan 1876, Johannestal, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland gest. Datum unbekannt   11. Harr, Jakob,   geb. 5 Feb 1878, Johannestal, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland gest. Datum unbekannt
  Familien-Kennung	F6297	Familienblatt  |  Familientafel

  
  

• Ereignis-Karte		Geburt - 5 Mrz 1837 - Simferopol, Simferopol, Region Krim, Rußland Eheschließung - 10 Okt 1854 - Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland  = Link zu Google Earth
  Pin-Bedeutungen	: Adresse       : Ortsteil       : Ort       : Region       : (Bundes-)Staat/-Land       : Land       : Nicht festgelegt

  
  

• Notizen

  James-Sergent: Tochter von Johannes R. Sailer und Anna Maria Justine Bette Walter Guthmiller: UID: 025D999672F901478A5E25D6CF89B185B2CF Karen Abel: UID: 696AA19700A64B01B14CB18EEC012D469933 MAIDEN NAME On the birth records of her children Friedrika's name is given as: Sailer (1855, 1857, 1864, 1868), Seiter (1858, 1860, 1870, 1876), and Sauter (1862, 1878). In the marriage record that is assumed to be for Daniel Harr and Friedrika, her name is given as Seiler. In the death records of her children, Louise and Daniel, her name is listed as Sider. No Friedrikas are found in any Sailer or Sauter families. An Aurora Friedricka Seiter was born 5 Mar 1837 in Simferopol, Crimea, to Heinrich Seiter and Christina Margaretha Hank/Hantke. This fits perfectly with the age of Friederika in the 1858 Grossliebental census. A Heinrich Seiter was originally found in Güldendorf with a wife and a daughter born in 1825. He disappears from there in 1830. He would seem to be the same Heinrich Seiter who then appears in Crimea. In the 1858 Grossliebental census, Friederika was referred to as being from Güldendorf. Merv Weiss wrote: "It has been my experience that members of a family and one or two generations thereafter were referred to as colonists of whichever colony where they first owned land (which was of course communally owned). Thus a man was known as a Guldendorf colonist even after he had moved to another colony. Also it is most likely his sons were also called Guldendorf colonists, even if they were not living there." Regarding the issue of movement between colonies in South Russia, Curt Renz wrote: "Something to remember concerning the 'movement' issue is: these people quite often tended to migrate from place to place so that it is not unusual to find children of one family being born in different villages (sometimes returning several times later to one place or another). Sometimes they moved a short distance and other times, a much longer distance, only to return one spot they'd lived in at an earlier time." No other Friederika Sailer, Sauter or Seiter was found born in the appropriate time frame. Based upon all of these factors, it is assumed at this time that she was the Aurora Friederika Seiter born in Simferopol. There is currently no actual hard evidence to support this assumption. Sources: 1. Title: Grossliebental, Liebental District Odessa, 1858 Census - Author: GRHS & AHSGR 2. Title: Odessa Library - Publication: www.odessa3.org 3. Title: St. Petersburg Church Books, 1833-1885 - Author: Evangelische Kirche, Konsistorium Petersburg (Rußland)

  
  

• Quellen

  [S68] James Sergent , (Rootsweb.com). [S67] Karen Abel , (wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com). [S44] Walter Guthmiller, (worldconnect.rootsweb.com (übernommen Ancestry)).